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| kain
doomisthebest@hotmail.com
|  "stupid ass monsters"
, posted Wed 4 Apr 20:48  
Yah, i would like there to be atleast one or two stupid ass's in tha game. Like monsters that chase rockets into walls and and trip over other monsters and accidentally fall off ledges if you push them too hard.
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| Sekmeth
mif43@hotmail.com
| "Re(1):stupid ass monsters" , posted Mon 9 Apr 01:49
Stupid monsters are cool I guess. I just hope the game still has monsters who can creep up and surprise the crap out of ya. That's the one yhing I liked about Doom: how the monsters could just creep up and overtake ya. Then the panic sets in...
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| interrupt 00h
i_seek_knowledge@nm.ru
| "They were not dumb, they were ERRATIC!!!" , posted Sat 7 Apr 16:45
That is it. Erratic: monsters' movement in DOOM was largely affected by randomization. That's why they were so inpredictable.
About supermonsters: yes, definetely there should be near-undestructable demigods, even more powerfull than in DOOM (have you played "Legacy"?).
The problem is: there would be only ONE AI system for ALL monsters :(((
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| DooMBoy
tallj_2000@yahoo.com
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| "Re(1):stupid ass monsters" , posted Sat 7 Apr 11:07
Most of the monsters in DOOM were all pretty stupid by today's standards. But ya gotta remeber this game was made in '93-94, and the id guys probabaly didn't know much about "smart" enemies.
There are my personal favorite stupid monsters: the BullDog Demon and the Former Humans(all of'em!)
All of the demon in Doom have a pattern: attack away until you or they die.
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| GollumGlitch
glitch_07@yahoo.com
| "Re(1):stupid ass monsters" , posted Fri 6 Apr 16:06
What if they had a secret option that allowed you to lower the enimies I.Q.
That way serious players could still get into the game, and others could have fun watching demons walking off cliffs.
Howerver, this would have to be a cheat or a secret option, otherwise lameass newbies would use it to beat the game.
No one is completley sane.
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| | Zaldron
avengerz66@hotmail.com
18477495
| "Re(2):stupid ass monsters" , posted Fri 6 Apr 19:19
Secret? Type "skill" in the Quake´s consoles and change the value to whatever you like. I have made invincible Eidolon´s on Hexen 2, as well as some "machine gun" archers... :)
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| sirgalahadwizar
sirgalahadwizard@hotmail.com
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|  "Re(1):stupid ass monsters"
, posted Fri 6 Apr 06:58
Doom is a serious game. If a monster sees you, it's gonna keep coming at you until it either rips your fucking heart out or it gets splattered all over the wall. If there are "stupid" monsters then they prolly aren't gonna be combatants, ie, they prolly don't fight. It outta be nice to push an imp off a ledge, but I don't think it'll be set-up ahead of time.
Quake2 wasn't as serious because the monsters weren't like the doom ones - not as predatory and animal like (exept for the mutants). Most of the monsters here were in a straight mindset, while ALL of the doom monsters (except for bosses which were megaevil) were insane.
Duke3d was a joke.
Experiment a little with the logic center of your brain before a zombie eats it.
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| amanichen
amanichen@yahoo.com
| "Re(1):stupid ass monsters" , posted Thu 5 Apr 11:27
Hehe..clumsy monsters...I like your idea.
In Doom 3 though?
Now -- I don't totally disagree with you here:
Setting traps to lure the afforementioned "stupid ass" monsters into, would probably be more feasable. Also, that seems to fit nicely with the "make them kill each other" aspect of the game.
Like the warehouse level in Quake 2, where you can lower crates onto the two beserkers that are below and can't notice you.
Or the lava bridge that can be lowered via a triger, and watch the shotgun gards fry in the lava.
Stuff like that would make a nice touch here and there.
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| Disorder
enter@softhome.net
27436321
| "Re(1):stupid ass monsters" , posted Thu 5 Apr 09:12
I don't like that idea.. It's doom. There's nothing to laugh about in Doom... It's not Duke.
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| Submerge
doublehelix@agent4054.com
| "Re(1):stupid ass monsters" , posted Thu 5 Apr 04:38
I agree completely. You should be able to trick those Pink Bubblegum demons into running into walls, and the same with lost souls, but they would explode when they did.
Ever stick a penny in a light socket? Try that out.
OH! HURT LIKE HELL DIDN'T IT?
He won't do that one again.
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| | Stphrz
stphrz63@hotmail.com
nah...
| "Re(2):stupid ass monsters" , posted Thu 5 Apr 22:08
Pink Bubblegum Demons!
I like that :)
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| | Lord FlatHead
lordflathead@yahoo.com
112071624
| "What ?" , posted Thu 5 Apr 08:58
Never, EVER call them Pink Bubblegum Demons ! You insult me, the game I love, and the chicken I ate today. Shame on you.
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| Lüt
toruonda@home.com
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| "Re(1):stupid ass monsters" , posted Wed 4 Apr 20:57
Hah, that would rule, pushing over a bunch of dumbass monsters :)
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| | Speshul Eddy
tarbaby99@earthlink.net
| "Re(2):stupid ass monsters" , posted Thu 5 Apr 23:04
yeah, it would be kinda cool if running into a monster hard enough knocked them off balance(especially on high ledges).
Of course the monstre's mass would be a big factor.
I mean, if you ran up behind a Cyberdemon and tried to knock him on his face, he'd probably just reach back, scratch his ass, and go back to sleep =P
I'm only paranoid cuz they're out to get me dammit!
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| | The Unknown
| "Re(3):stupid ass monsters" , posted Fri 6 Apr 14:19
The demons in doom are stupid enough to run into trapps.i want at least a monster or two to be smart enough to avoid a trap.The bull demons should be a lot stronger and take at least 3 super shotgun blasts
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