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| DooMBoy
tallj_2000@yahoo.com
287657894
|  "Spirits, ghosts, and all things evil"
, posted Wed 6 Jun 09:25  
This is not about any blasted weaons or demons. Instead, it's about sound. Sound, you say. Yes, sound. I'm thinking about sound in terms of "hear a sound behind you, turn around-nothing there", sort of sound. Imagine: You're inside a darkened base, and you don't hear anything except for the beeping of the nearby computers. "Beep....Beep...Beep..." You think you hear the sound of boots scuffing on the floor, but when you wheel around-nothing. The lights buzzing incessantly. Your own breathing. You hear a slight noise behind you, but you dismiss it as nothing more than a figment of your over-worked imagination. Then the noise becomes unmistakable-it's the sound of a demons claws scratching across the floor towards you...
I think it'd be really cool to have stuff like in the next Doom game. Sound should play a HUGE role in scaring the tar out of you.
The truth is I only play Doom two times a day-daytime and nighttime!-DooMBoy
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| Jeremy
oranguy@email.com
84482504
| "Re(1):Spirits, ghosts, and all things evil" , posted Fri 8 Jun 20:35
My favorite sound from the old Doom is the sarcastic luagh of the Archvile.
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| Blynd Syde
Blynd_Syde@hotmail.com
| "Re(1):Spirits, ghosts, and all things evil" , posted Wed 6 Jun 12:45
I also think sound should play a big role in the next doom game.
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| Zaldron
Le Ventilateur 
avengerz66@hotmail.com
18477495
| "Re(1):Spirits, ghosts, and all things evil" , posted Wed 6 Jun 09:41
Spline based sound entity trajectories. That might mean nothing to you, but I can assure you it's a whole new level of sound engines in games. Devine confirmed those in QuakeCon...
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| | Linguica
Doomworld webmaster 
linguica@doomworld.com
831722
| "Re(2):Spirits, ghosts, and all things evil" , posted Wed 6 Jun 12:10
Your search - "Spline based sound entity trajectories" - did not match any documents.
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| | Tetzlaff
olo8@gmx.de
| "Re(2):spline based..." , posted Wed 6 Jun 09:59
What does it do?
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| | Zaldron
Le Ventilateur
avengerz66@hotmail.com
18477495
| "Re(3):spline based..." , posted Wed 6 Jun 17:39
It means id can pull out special entities that emit sound and move across the game world just as you want. The possibilities are endless, linear trajectories, spiral-like, curves across the 3 dimensions, a mix of those. Scripted movement just like in 3D modelling packages. Now imagine the dynamic changes of the sound(s) thanks to EAX or OpenAL...
If someone here played Thief II mission "Casing the joint" knows *EXACTLY* what kind of spooky stuff they can do...
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| | Linguica
Doomworld webmaster
linguica@doomworld.com
831722
| "Re(4):spline based..." , posted Wed 6 Jun 17:45
So basically you make a path for an entity to follow, and the entity emits a sound as it moves along the path. Bah, I was hoping it would be something cooler than that.
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| | Zaldron
Le Ventilateur
avengerz66@hotmail.com
18477495
| "Re(5):spline based..." , posted Thu 7 Jun 04:20
Not really, you make a script-based trajectory. Acceleration, loops, staticness, triggered by player's motion, etc.
Just the same kind of crap you'll be able to do with light entities.
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| | Disorder
WAHH CHANGE MY TITLE 
enter@softhome.net
27436321
| "Re(5):spline based..." , posted Wed 6 Jun 22:12
I thought that was actually pretty spooky.
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| Lord FlatHead
lordflathead@yahoo.com
112071624
| "Re(1):Spirits, ghosts, and all things evil" , posted Wed 6 Jun 09:34
I believe this is exactly how Doom3's sound should (and probably will) be.
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| Tetzlaff
olo8@gmx.de
| "Re(1):Spirits, ghosts, and all things evil" , posted Wed 6 Jun 09:34
You´re right, sound is one of the key features to create a new Doom athmosphere. Even in the old Doom games sound played a very important role. The pneumatic screeching of the doors, the distant and suddenly closer growling of the monsters, the firing noise of the plasma gun, that all was essential to Doom. And, as you describe, there are much more possibilities to enhance the dramatic aspects with a subtle use of sounds in certain situations.
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| | maga
predescu_laurentiu@caramail.com
| "Re(2):Spirits, ghosts, and all things evil" , posted Thu 7 Jun 04:00
that's why the new doom game will never be "like" the original.
It's the atmosphere, in general, that defines the original, not just monsters, or grafix, or sounds alone....it's the whole that is impressive.
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