So I played XBox Doom 3

OT:

Holering's sig said:

You laugh because I'm different. I laugh because your all the same.

I laugh because you used "your" incorrectly.

Ultraviolet said:

OT:I laugh because you used "your" incorrectly.

That's the second time someone says a mistake about my signature. Is it really that big of a deal? (you guys probly don't get it either. Figures)

We're oppressing you.

pfft. conformists.

Another important question: Does the flashlight run out of energy and you have to pick up energy cells for it? Or does it come with an unlimited supply?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO doom3 will SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111111111

I guess it might run out of energy. If it didn't it would take away from the "scare factor" of the game. I mean come one, it would be a great touch if you were walking down a pitch black hallway swarming with imps and all of the sudden your flashlight runs out of juice :-)

What kind of dinky flashlight big enough to be a melee weapon is going to last you only 3 minutes? (number out of ass, here)

Any decent incandescent or halogen flash nowadays will last way longer than most FPS player lighting, and fluorescents will last even longer than that.

Holering said:

That's the second time someone says a mistake about my signature. Is it really that big of a deal? (you guys probly don't get it either. Figures)

I think I was the first. You're right, we don't get the use of poor grammer.

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is this the maggot you speak of? I know the pic is blurry but..

and thanks for taking yer time to repley to all those wonderfull answers :)

Zoost said:

Some pictures here http://www.planetdoom.com/misc/e32004.shtml

I like this one with the chaingun (i think). Nice.

Wouldn't those be considered leaked? ;)

Shapeless said:

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is this the maggot you speak of? I know the pic is blurry but..

and thanks for taking yer time to repley to all those wonderfull answers :)

Shapeless, delete the url tags and use the [] to have the image show:

[img]http://www.photodump.com/direct/. . . etc. and the picture will show on the boards.


Presto! : ) It looked like that was what you were trying to do, so I thought I'd help you out.

question: was teh xbox version scary at all?

Zoost said:

Some pictures here http://www.planetdoom.com/misc/e32004.shtml

I like this one with the chaingun (i think). Nice.

WTF? thats the second time(the first being e3 last year) we've seen a lump of flesh stuck to the chaingun. what gives?

LOl lump of flesh? Doesn´t look like flesh to me, but I don´t know what else it should be. Kinda strange, wouldn´t an attachment like this disturb the rotation of the barrels?

BTW, it sucks that the chaingun still isn´t weilded like a minigun with a grip on the top.

Tetzlaff said:

BTW, it sucks that the chaingun still isn´t weilded like a minigun with a grip on the top.

It probably is - the hand is just further back out of sight. Still, I'd have preferred that his hand was visibly holding a grip on top (sorta like with the Q2 BFG).

On the other hand, this is a minor nitpick detail (along with the doomguy not wearing gloves) and it really won't matter once you play the game. I'm more concerned about whether the chaingun's top firing rate is fast, it sounds cool (and I think its firing sounds are nice and beefy - if only it fires faster than in the trailer), complete with an awesome whirring sound (the sound the commando's chaingun in the E3 2002 demo made was perfect - if it sounds like it, or similar, I know I'll be pleased).

So far I think the gun looks awesome (I especially think it looks sexy with the well-polished, shiny metal barrels :-P).

chaingunse...

Im pretty sure that the guns can hold a lot more ammo that just 300. Look at this....http://www.doomworld.com/php/screenie.php?dir=/doom3_031904/ It holds 900 or something.

Then what does the 36 refer to? Clip content?

Yes, the smaller number is probably the clip count. It could also be ammo for an attached grenadelauncher but I never heard about alternate fire modes for the Doom3 weapons ;)

900 can not be a real number though, the guy who was taking the screenshot surely uses a "give ammo" cheat. 900 would be rediculous, I think 200 bullets will be the max.

Tetzlaff said:

900 can not be a real number though, the guy who was taking the screenshot surely uses a "give ammo" cheat. 900 would be rediculous, I think 200 bullets will be the max.

200 would be the max, then 400 when you get a backpack (like in classic Doom).

On the other hand, if the machinegun shares ammo with the chaingun, it wouldn't be too ridiculous.
Hopefully, the chaingun can hold around 1000 rounds - it'd suck if it can only hold 300 or 400 rounds, because it'll burn right through them in no time.

I could see the machine gun and pistol sharing ammo, but having three guns use the same ammo, two of which being machine-gun-like seems knida silly to me. the pistol for ammo conservation, but having two guns do that is like... wierd. especially a mahine gun, to save ammo? ahaha..

I dont think that it will be that hard to use the per pixel shot direction simply because other games that were faster such as SOFII use it and I didn't think that it was all that hard in fact it really added to the game. Also the skill level you played on (im assuming that there are skill levels) was it hard or did you find it boring and same old thing killing enemies to easy? I know Doom gets really boring playing on "Don't hurt me im a p&%%y" ;)

Goliath said:

I dont think that it will be that hard to use the per pixel shot direction simply because other games that were faster such as SOFII use it and I didn't think that it was all that hard in fact it really added to the game.

I don't believe that SOFII really uses a per-poly hit detection! I didn't play it, but Doom3 really brings a totally new technique with this. The SOF-Series only used a very rough subdivision between the different limps, as opposed to a true per-poly detection, where you can literally miss an opponent by shooting under his arm.

There is one thing I am unsure about from what I just saw in the trailer. Is that shotgun the same as the one that was shown at the last E3?

Deathmatcher said:

I don't believe that SOFII really uses a per-poly hit detection! I didn't play it, but Doom3 really brings a totally new technique with this. The SOF-Series only used a very rough subdivision between the different limps, as opposed to a true per-poly detection, where you can literally miss an opponent by shooting under his arm.

You never played it, well then you wouldn't Know that because you really did miss when you shot off by just a little. Sense the game use humans which dont usally fail in a shooting position I couldn't tell you bout missing under the arm but you can miss his head with the sniper and shoot between the legs. Im not arguing with you that doom3 will take it to a new level but SOFII (only the second)and other games alike have been using this system and it isn't all that hard.

Ok, I think we have to wait and see.
I just remember the Quakecon-attendants who wrote about how surprisingly hard it was sometimes, to hit the opponent (without mentioning SOF2)

999cop said:

There is one thing I am unsure about from what I just saw in the trailer. Is that shotgun the same as the one that was shown at the last E3?

no, its the one from the xbox version, see first xbox screenshot.
the two versions have different shotguns.

TH-555 said:

no, its the one from the xbox version, see first xbox screenshot.
the two versions have different shotguns.

Unlikely.
It's likely that the shotgun shown in the 2003 trailer is an old version, which has since been changed. Some time ago, there was a "shot" of four of Doom 3's weapons from the PC version; the chainsaw, the pistol, the shotgun and the plasma rifle. The dimensions and shape of the shotgun in that shot corresponded accurately to the shotgun shown in the first Xbox screenshot and subsequently in this Xbox trailer.

It is likely that the PC shotgun model will look better, but the design, I'm sure, is unchanged from the XBox version - it will still have that "lump" on top of its barrel.

Btw, I really hope there is a chainsaw as a player weapon in the game. So far, all we've seen from the chainsaw was from this "shot of four" and the one being wielded by the zombie.

dsm said:

Unlikely.
It's likely that the shotgun shown in the 2003 trailer is an old version, which has since been changed.

the one in 03 looked great, why change it too something that doesnt look as good? besides, I havent yet seen a PC screenshot with the trumpet-bell shotgun, and untill I do, im not convinced. the ugly shotgun looked OK in the 04 trailer, but in the screenshots it looks awful. and it cant be a coincidense that the new shotgun has an xbox-green tint too it. for that matter, the trailer had two beeping sounds in the first 30 seconds that were recycled from halo. like they said, the xbox version is going to be a slightly different game, not just a simple port, so the guns are sure to look a little different.

EDIT: OK, so its not really xbox green, its more like the armor color, so maybe im wrong.