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Marnetmar said:
I don't think that a *completely* open world would work in a Doom game. However, being non-linear and giving the player lots of space to roam and explore are a must.

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Gordon said:
What I'm hoping is that since apparantly it's taking place after the demons have invaded, we'll get to see Earth deforming into a second Hell.

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Gez said:

If you want to see that, watch TV.

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Gez said:

If you want to see that, watch TV.

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GoatLord said:
I'm wondering how many more months we're going to be dicking around making useless posts before we get even basic information. I understand that Rage has only been out the door for a couple months, but they announced Doom 4 like two years ago. Quit blue-balling us, id!

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peach freak said:
I know the speculation is that Doom 4 will probably be set on earth, but an idea popped into my head.

What if Doom 4 combined Doom and Doom II? That is, player travels through Phobos, finds Deimos, has to go through hell, and returns home to find Earth crippled.

Me like.

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steuntron said:
You are right and you just described my rant. But that doesn't mean there isn't a problem with the gaming industry.

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geo said:

Sims 3 did this.

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• Basic brushwork happens in the editor, but now it's even less than for idtech4 games and most of the more advanced geometry is made in 3D modelling packages and imported into the game.
  
  
• Then, after having created a bunch of static worthless backdrops and inserted them into the game, you go about blocking everything off except a small linear hallway for the player to traverse.
  
  
• All right, so now your static physics-object-less interaction-less adventure is complete, it's time to make it look good! Bring out the stamp-on-decals and waste a few hundred man-hours polishing up the worthless backdrops that add nothing to the game.
  
  
• Now it's time for some lighting, but don't pay too much attention to that. Dynamic lighting was only important in the last generation of games, right?
  
  
• Cram in some weapons, items and monsters and you're ready for testing. Try all the different options and ways of playing the game on XBOX360 and PS3. That means you have to go forward AND backwards. Don't test for the PC, it'll probably work! *CROSSES FINGERS*
  
  
• Oh and don't forget to find a static image skybox. Pick the happy sunshine one that doesn't interfere with its gloomy atmosphere and underlining of the mood.
  

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Alientank said:
Hoes.

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AirRaid said:
Less of the obvious trolling please people.

Steutron: There is a thread for thing you don't want Doom 4 to have. Stop being all edgy and ironic and retarded.

Maps in Idtech5 are not quick or easy to make. I know id spent shitloads of hours on every area in Rage, some people's jobs were just to go through maps, find boring parts and make them look better.

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Megamur said:
Again, some songs may have been taken from those bands, but several of them were transformed into non-metal songs. Map18's music is also apparently based off a metal song. Does Map18 sound metal to you? And that level has a HUGE fight in it, with lots of action, but still features a rather moody song.

Again, if you want metal, play Serious Sam or Painkiller. Let DOOM be DOOM.

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steuntron said:
- Cover based system. Dodging attacks is too hard. It's more fun to hide behind a crate.

- Auto regenerating health, so no health packs. This way a lot of money can be saved because level designers don't need to balance out encounters and power ups.

- No real secrets, secret and easter eggs should be on your path and very obvious because development costs are way too high to implement secrets nobody will find because nobody likes replayability.

- Linear levels. Gamers don't like multiple paths. It's too confusing.

- Even though the levels are linear, everything should be pointed out with a compass or an arrow on screen. If a player stays too long in an area the path should be highlighted too.

- No possibility to quick save. There should only be checkpoints. Preferably right before a 1 minute cutscene

- Doom should have a LOT of cut scenes you can't skip. Games should have emphasis on story not on gameplay.

- Quick time events is what separates good games from bad games. Just like in the excellent game Duke Nukem Forever, it's fun to tap a button just to force a door open.

- Since nobody uses mouse and keyboard anymore, mouse control should be messed up with mouseaccel you can't turn off because nobody cares about mouse control

- the only gamepad in existence is the xbox360 controller. So no support for other controllers.

- Pre-order bonusses: Only when gamers preorder Doom4 then they should receive all weapons. Just like in Rage.

- DLC: There should be DLC on day 1 of release. With extra mappacks every month for 6 months at 20 euros per mappack

- No modtools or map making software will be released to the public, so DLC will sell better

- The PC version has to be a port that only works on 10% of all PC's at release

- Charge for patches

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