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Imacleverusername said:
Nonono, I don't want an invisible wall effect sort of thing.
I made a wall using linedefs, and monsters can still see me and shoot me through the wall, and it's not meant to be translucent, I just want to make a wall that enemies and the player can't fire through, but I don't know how.

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Vordakk said:


If I'm understanding you correctly, you're just drawing a straight line and then checking ticboxes in the linedef properties menu. This isn't a good way to make a wall, at least for a beginner.

Try creating the wall by making a sector. The sector will be long and thin, like a wall would be. Like say, 16 pixels thick by 256 pixels long. Then raise that wall sector's height until neither you nor the monsters can see over it.

If you fire a weapon the monsters will still hear you, unless you raise the wall to the ceiling and make it flush on both sides. If you want to make it so that monsters can't hear you beyond a low wall, you'll need to check BOTH sides of the wall as "block sound", not just one.

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PRIMEVAL said:
It sounds like you're putting in mid section textures, which doesn't make a wall. Do you have any screenies to show us what you're doing exactly?

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Mechadon said:
Ok I see what your trying to do now. You weren't kidding when you said your were a mapping newbie. But no worries, everyone starts somewhere!

What your doing is trying to place a texture on the MIDDLE part of a single line, thinking that will make your wall, correct? Here's another example map for you:

http://mekworx.phenomer.net/mekastu...newbexample.wad

Be sure to download and open this map in Doom Builder so you can see what I did.

To clarify, midtextures on 2-sided lines aren't walls per-se; they won't give you the properties you seek. Instead you need to do one of two things:

1 - Raise your middle square's floor height up high enough so that it will block the Cyberdemon's sight. If you raise the floor, you'll need to apply textures to the LOWER part of the lines. On the flip-side if you lower the ceiling, you'll need to apply textures to the UPPER part of the lines. Or...
2 - Delete the middle sector which will completely block any viewing through it. This will turn the lines of your inner square sector into 1-sided lines.

Either of these will work for what you want.

Remember this: 2-sided lines require upper and/or lower textures if one or both of their sides are exposed while 1-sided lines require middle textures. This holds true in most cases (I won't go into midtextures as that might confuse you more). Be sure to take advantage of 3D mode if you can. That will definitely help you in understanding the whole UPPER/MIDDLE/LOWER texture thing.

You would really benefit from a mapping guide. I pretty much learned on my own years ago, so I can't make any solid suggestions. But the Doom Builder site has this page with some video guides that might help.

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