Problem uisng DeHackEd

GreyGhost said:

They're most likely in the old binary blob format, or for a no longer supported version of Doom/Doom2. Which wads are they for?

Cydream.deh , sod.deh almost all the wads

They should be possible to open. Maybe you were trying to open more DEHs at once? I don't know about WhackEd4 (which I presume you're using?), but WhackEd2 can only run one instance at a time, and you must close it before trying to open another deh with it.

scifista42 said:

Use SLADE3 to make a new lump inside your wad, name it "DECORATE", then either import a textfile into the lump, or directly open the lump in text mode and write your DECORATE code.

How to open the lump into text mode ?

scifista42 said:

They should be possible to open. Maybe you were trying to open more DEHs at once? I don't know about WhackEd4 (which I presume you're using?), but WhackEd2 can only run one instance at a time, and you must close it before trying to open another deh with it.

It gives me an error about an icon or picture...
And i'm not trying to open more than one wad file at a time.

The Doommer said:

How to open the lump into text mode ?

In SLADE3, click on the lump, then click "View as Text" in the right window.

The Doommer said:

It gives me an error about an icon or picture...

Post a screenshot of the error window, or quote it precisely.

I hope you are not trying to open .wad files with WhackEd. It's an editor of .deh or .bex patches.

scifista42 said:

In SLADE3, click on the lump, then click "View as Text" in the right window.

I confused a little...
Which lump you're talking about ???

scifista42 said:

I hope you are not trying to open .wad files with WhackEd. It's an editor of .deh or .bex patches.

No , DEH files...

The Doommer said:

Cydream.deh , sod.deh almost all the wads

Cyber110.deh? I had no problems opening that, though WhackEd warned that sod.deh might be corrupted, which appears to be due to a few key names being double-capitalised in that patch ("Reaction Time" & "Hit Points" instead of "Reaction time" & "Hit points").

How to write my DECORATE code in SLADE3 ? For adding new monsters , ...

Be willing to learn.

scifista42 said:

Be willing to learn.

This is my question :
Where to write my DECORATE code in SLADE3 for adding new monsters , ... ????
Give me the location please...

Write it (as a text) into a lump named "DECORATE".

scifista42 said:

Write it (as a text) into a lump named "DECORATE".

Cannot find it , please give me a screenshot.

Here you go. If the lump doesn't exist, create it as a New Entry.


(1024x768 - 29k)

GreyGhost said:

Here you go. If the lump doesn't exist, create it as a New Entry.

https://www.mediafire.com/view/?3yih6l95ppkao7a
(1024x768 - 29k)

Create DECORATE before the maps ?

It doesn't matter whether you create it before or after, below or above, etc. DECORATE will always take effect in the whole wad.

It doesn't really matter in which order you create stuff.

What matters is where you create it. Make sure the DECORATE lump is not put in the middle of the map lumps.

scifista42 said:

It doesn't matter whether you create it before or after, below or above, etc. DECORATE will always take effect in the whole wad.

Ok , Understood.
Thanks.

Another Problem :
What are the names for the monsters ?
For example what is the name for Mastermind in DECORATE ?

All native class names can be found here: http://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes

For example, if you want Doom monster class names, navigate to "Doom classes -> Characters -> Monsters".

Also, don't redefine native class names. Instead, define a new class with a new name, and use "replaces" keyword if you want to replace the native one in your maps. As shown here: http://zdoom.org/wiki/Using_inheritance

scifista42 said:

All native class names can be found here: http://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes

For example, if you want Doom monster class names, navigate to "Doom classes -> Characters -> Monsters".

Also, don't redefine native class names. Instead, define a new class with a new name, and use "replaces" keyword if you want to replace the native one in your maps. As shown here: http://zdoom.org/wiki/Using_inheritance

An important question :
i want to add some of wolfenstein enemies to the game , but their speed scale is diffrent from doom's. For example Spectre has 800 speed in wolfenstein.

In DECORATE, the actor property "Speed" defines the length of one step (measured in map units) performed by the monster's standard walking function.

Yeah, the Speed property is handled very differently depending on whether the actor is a monster, a projectile, or a player pawn.

No one got what i said...
How to solve the difference between speed scales of Doom & Wolfesntein ??
The monsters in doom have different speed scale with wolfenstein enemies.

Accustomize it as you see fit. We gave you info to consider.

The Doommer said:

An important question :
i want to add some of wolfenstein enemies to the game , but their speed scale is diffrent from doom's. For example Spectre has 800 speed in wolfenstein.

Disclaimer: I might be wrong about how Wolfenstein works, I'm not very familiar with it. But from what I can tell from a superficial glance, Wolfenstein uses a system in which actors, when they move, move every single tic. Also, Wolfenstein has 70 tics per second, instead of just 35 like Doom.

void T_Will (objtype *ob)
{
	long move;
	int	dx,dy,dist;
	boolean	dodge;

	dodge = false;
	dx = abs(ob->tilex - player->tilex);
	dy = abs(ob->tiley - player->tiley);
	dist = dx>dy ? dx : dy;

	if (CheckLine(ob))						// got a shot at player?
	{
		if ( US_RndT() < (tics<<3) )
		{
		//
		// go into attack frame
		//
			if (ob->obclass == willobj)
				NewState (ob,&s_willshoot1);
			else if (ob->obclass == angelobj)
				NewState (ob,&s_angelshoot1);
			else
				NewState (ob,&s_deathshoot1);
			return;
		}
		dodge = true;
	}

	if (ob->dir == nodir)
	{
		if (dodge)
			SelectDodgeDir (ob);
		else
			SelectChaseDir (ob);
		if (ob->dir == nodir)
			return;							// object is blocked in
	}

	move = ob->speed*tics;

	while (move)
	{
		if (ob->distance < 0)
		{
		//
		// waiting for a door to open
		//
			OpenDoor (-ob->distance-1);
			if (doorobjlist[-ob->distance-1].action != dr_open)
				return;
			ob->distance = TILEGLOBAL;	// go ahead, the door is now opoen
		}

		if (move < ob->distance)
		{
			MoveObj (ob,move);
			break;
		}

		//
		// reached goal tile, so select another one
		//

		//
		// fix position to account for round off during moving
		//
		ob->x = ((long)ob->tilex<<TILESHIFT)+TILEGLOBAL/2;
		ob->y = ((long)ob->tiley<<TILESHIFT)+TILEGLOBAL/2;

		move -= ob->distance;

		if (dist <4)
			SelectRunDir (ob);
		else if (dodge)
			SelectDodgeDir (ob);
		else
			SelectChaseDir (ob);

		if (ob->dir == nodir)
			return;							// object is blocked in
	}

}

#define TILEGLOBAL	0x10000
#define HALFTILE	0x8000
#define TILESHIFT	16

No. Gez said either 7 or 13. That guess sounds reasonable. Most Doom enemies use speed 8, sometimes 10. Speed 55 sounds unreasonable, because as we told you, it's the distance of one step. A step 55 units long would make for an extremely erratic movement.

The Doommer said:

Let me check , does Spectre have 55 speed in doom converting ??

Only if you do one step per second, so you call A_Chase every 35 tics. It's going to look extremely janky. You want smooth movement, so you call A_Chase every three or four tics, and that means that you'll get 7 or 8 steps per seconds, so you have to divide 55 by 7 or 8...

Basically the exercise is to do this:
1. Convert Wolfenstein speed value into number of tiles per second (multiply by 70, and divide by 65536)
2. Convert tiles per second into map units per second (depends on value chosen for map units per tile, 64 or 128)
3. Convert map units per second into map units per step (depends on number of steps per second, which depends on monster coding)

i cannot understand the POSS word and the AB , ... in the http://zdoom.org/wiki/Creating_new_monsters_or_other_complex_items
I have no problem for A_PosAttack , ... but POSS AB 10 A and similar ones don't have any link for learning