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oh well, its good music

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That rat bastard!

One thing to consider why no one caught onto it is the time when it was released. The Internet wasn't blossomed into the warez playland it is now, and music theft wasn't nearly as rampid (or as big a deal).

And back then, most people has a crappy 8bit sound card with no WAV capabilities, so it all sounded like bleeps and bloops.

That doesn't make it right, but that might be an explanation as to why he got away with it back then.

I'm glad to say my stuff is all original though. :)
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Maybe he got permission, or the bands thought it was cool and didn't mind.

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Ichor said:
At least all the good midis aren't ripoffs (E1M5, E1M7, E1M8, E2M4, E2M5, E2M6, E2M7, and MAP28).


As for E2M6, listen to the Aliens soundtrack, one of the two tracks with "Newt" in the name (maybe it was Going After Newt, I don't recall exactly.)
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Ichor said:
At least all the good midis aren't ripoffs (E1M5, E1M7, E1M8, E2M4, E2M5, E2M6, E2M7, and MAP28).
Maybe we just haven't discovered the sources yet :P
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Can someone tell me just what exactly any of http://www.doomworld.com/linguica/doomcovers/ showed or proved to us? All I can hear from these mp3's are whacky noises

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999cop said:
Can someone tell me just what exactly any of http://www.doomworld.com/linguica/doomcovers/ showed or proved to us? All I can hear from these mp3's are whacky noises


...listen to the Doom portion, then the portion done by a band, they sound exactly alike. Turn your speakers, but that might not help you hear any better, since your head is stuck so far up your ass.

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999cop said:
Can someone tell me just what exactly any of http://www.doomworld.com/linguica/doomcovers/ showed or proved to us? All I can hear from these mp3's are whacky noises
what
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So yeah what else is new?

If we didn't ripoff stuff, everything would be different. :P

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ling dude this is like spooky where did you and how did you figure this out or whaa you know damn im scared now me hides in corner

this wont turn into anything legal would it???
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We've been discussing this stuff for years. It's not like Ling just went out and found them all on his free time one day. (or so I think)

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well this is my first time hearing about this thats nutty though...i should listen to the radio
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You forgot Map04 and John Travolta : Greased lightning.

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Well, I knew for a long time now that most of the songs were inspired by famous metalsongs or have been completely stolen. I have to say Bobby did a very good job at stealing. All the songs fit well.

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This is absolutely freaky :D Some of the midis sound almost exactly like their corresponding mp3s *g*

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Doom2 map01 music is a rip-off of Megadeth's Hangar 18.

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boris said:
Doom2 map01 music is a rip-off of Megadeth's Hangar 18.
I can affirm this :P
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Waterworld (the music to E1M4 in Duke 3d) sounds very similar to KMFDM - Virus (Dub). Not sure if this is a coincidence or what.

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Weird. I usually turn off Doom music and listen to my playlist. All the songs listed on the Doom Cover page are on my playlist too.

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Why is there a link to the forums in your forum signature Nanami?

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Nanami said:
Weird. I usually turn off Doom music and listen to my playlist. All the songs listed on the Doom Cover page are on my playlist too.


Then you haven't lost anything essential. :P

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I can honestly say I don't care, since I usually don't listen to any music at all while Dooming.

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Then why are you even bothering to post in this thread?

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Yes they do sound similar but eh, what you gonna do now?
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Yes they do sound similar but eh, what you gonna do now?


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1. Bobby isn't to blame for the 'inspired music'. Romero asked him to do nothing but cover music and handed him Pantera, AiC, Black Sabbath and AC/DC cd's. (No metallica)

2. I don't think you can call any of the songs ripoffs. (except perhaps map23) Bobby just took the best parts of the metal songs and based his song off of that.

3. IMO, Bobby's versions of the songs are much better than the original versions.

4. What I think of your list:

E1M1: No. I think this song was inspired by Slayer: Behind the crooked cross near the end. (Yes I know it's E3M3 too).

E1M4: Inspired, yes. Ripoff? Not at all.

E2M1: Same as with E1M4.

E2M3: I don't really see the similarity.

E3M1: Indeed a cover.

E3M3: Obviously a cover.

E3M8: Wtf? I don't hear any similarity between the two.

Map07: One of the more obvious ones.

Map10: Bobby took the best part of the song and transformed it into his own.

Map18: Same as with Map10

Map23: The song which comes closest to a ripoff. Bobby's version is just 100 times better, though ;) (no singing)

Map25: Same as with Map10

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Bobby isn't to blame for the 'inspired music'. Romero asked him to do nothing but cover music and handed him Pantera, AiC, Black Sabbath and AC/DC cd's. (No metallica)
I've never heard anything about Romero asking him to do cover music. Got a source? From the music page on Doomworld:
The id Software development team originally wanted me to do nothing but metal songs for DOOM.
The covers were, judging from that statement, Bobby's own initiative. In any case, those songs are obvious rip-offs and there's really no excuse for them. It's possible to compose inspired music without stealing sequences.
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Fredrik said:
I've never heard anything about Romero asking him to do cover music. Got a source?


I asked Romero.

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