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To be honest, I think ID's response has to be vague. If they say they are officially against ripping, then they alienate a good portion of their audience and potentially make less money in the future. If they say they officially don't care, they probably give up some legal rights that people would then be able to take advantage of. As such, they kind of nonchalantly "agree" to it while keeping the rights necessary to prevent someone from going too far with it.

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When it comes down to it, the developers themselves recognize that we just do this in the name of fun and creativity. It's usually the suits & lawyers that have a different perspective on things. At least that's my experience from all the cease & desist situations I have observed.

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GeckoYamori said:
Regardless of legality, the policy on using others' resources seem to vary greatly from company to company. Bethesda are very strict about using textures and such from other games in custom content for their titles, while Epic doesn't seem to mind one bit that HL2 and Doom 3 content are making rounds for UT on their own official forums.

From what id officials have said about this, I guess they fall somewhere inbetween.



Oh, interesting. I always expected that the company whose resources were ripped would be the company most likely to take legal action. But, you seem to be saying that when resources are ripped from game A to make a mod for game B, it's more likely that the makers of game B will raise a fuss.

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Death-Destiny said:
To be honest, I think ID's response has to be vague.
Their response was pretty straightforward, and consistent with their actions.


If they say they are officially against ripping,
You mean actively against it, as they indeed are officially against it.

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Creaphis said:


Oh, interesting. I always expected that the company whose resources were ripped would be the company most likely to take legal action. But, you seem to be saying that when resources are ripped from game A to make a mod for game B, it's more likely that the makers of game B will raise a fuss.



It's both ways -- company B might not want to look like they're condoning asset theft. Bethesda is indeed especially strict -- after a bit of debate, they banned on their forum all discussion about an utility that converts Morrowind stuff into Oblivion stuff; even if it requires the user to have both games installed and even if both games are by the same company and in the same series.

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