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Philnemba
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Jodwin said:
Free? I wouldn't mind paying for a yet an other official episode.


Now since I think about it, I wouldn't be surprise if Id port it as an Iwad and release it on steam.
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Super Jamie said:
The Red Cross never allowed anyone to use their trademark, however many game makers took it into their own hands to use the cross as a universal symbol for "health pack".

The Red Cross is now concerned that having the logo in so many violent games could "erode the protective value" of the symbol in real-life warzones, and so have issued C&Ds in regards to their trademark.


No. Johnson & Johnson was responsible, not the Red Cross. As a matter of fact, it was Johnson & Johnson suing the Red Cross that caused all this mess in the first place.

The matter is somewhat complicated, but the gist of it is that Johnson & Johnson applied for and received the trademark for the symbol before the Red Cross was granted sole rights to use the symbol in an amendment to the Geneva Convention. Since Johnson & Johnson already had the rights to it (in the US), they couldn't technically be taken away from them (although certain restrictions were placed against their use of it).

Problems arose when the Red Cross started to use the symbol to sell first aid kits and the like to the general public in order to raise money to help fund their efforts in other nations in need of their assistance. Johnson & Johnson decided that selling goods was outside of what the Red Cross should be doing, and that this infringed on their trademark. So in a superbly dick-headed move, they showcased corporate greed at its finest and decided that profit was more important than human life and sued the Red Cross for copyright infringement.

Ultimately the matter was settled out of court, but this case still had wide consequences; games not using the symbol anymore was but one of them.

Futher information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emblem...e_United_States
http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/jo...over-trademark/
http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/jo...hey-let-on-168/
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/09/business/09cross.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...7080802244.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118662527980592590.html
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Super Jamie
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Wow, that is way worse than I thought. I hate the 21st century culture of litigation :/
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Philnemba said:


Now since I think about it, I wouldn't be surprise if Id port it as an Iwad and release it on steam.

If they don't, I will buy it anyway and use my friend's transfer cable to get the iwad off my HD. Hopefully I can PWAD-ize it so people will at least need to own Doom2. I really hope ID Software will just release it for the PC though. I would feel kinda... eh-ish because of the questionable legality of doing it.
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scalliano said:
Reasonable detail in the new levels, is the 360 running off a version of Boom?
Most of the console manufacturers (except Apple/iPhone) don't allow the use of open-source code on their systems for licensing reasons, so I assume it's based off the original MS-DOS code.
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It is the original code, as evidenced by the medikit bug I pointed out earlier.
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Gez said:
It is the original code, as evidenced by the medikit bug I pointed out earlier.


It might not be. A lot of ports back in the day didn't implement "you got a medkit you really need" or the ouch face.
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Super Jamie
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doomclassic_iphone_v1.0_source.zip

It's PrBoom and it's GPL.
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Super Jamie said:
doomclassic_iphone_v1.0_source.zip

It's PrBoom and it's GPL.


...relevant post of the year?
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Super Jamie
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Oh wait, I misread the iPhone post above, my bad :P
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Mr. T
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Super Jamie said:
Oh wait, I misread the iPhone post above, my bad :P


All good, all good.

Doom seems to have disappeared off the app store. Maybe it's because the medkit still had a cross?
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Trasher][
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Mr. T said:
Doom seems to have disappeared off the app store. Maybe it's because the medkit still had a cross?
Still there for me.
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They seem to have pulled it from the Japan store. Did anyone else get massive HOMs all thru episode 4?

Anyway back on topic: Is the new episode video on youtube yet?
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Doom, Doom Resurrection and Wolfenstein 3-D disappeared from the swiss Appstore too, but reappear after some weeks. Strange.
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Still can't get that damn site to work. Even after disabling adblock and/or trying internet explorer.
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Okay.

http://www.filefront.com/15593069/d...ve-gameplay2.7z
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Nuxius
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AgentSpork said:
Still can't get that damn site to work. Even after disabling adblock and/or trying internet explorer.

That's because they have removed them.

Count it up to the old "Idiotic site/mag posts content before publishers say they can" syndrome. Happens a lot.
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Nuxius said:
Count it up to the old "Idiotic site/mag posts content before publishers say they can" syndrome. Happens a lot.

I can totally imagine id software going all "oh my god stop spoiling the super-secret 16-year-old game with that video that shows the two levels that have already appeared in screenshots in printed magazines". Really. It makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
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You'd be surprised. ;)

I doubt id said anything though, more likely the site maintainers themselves realized they weren't supposed to be posted yet.
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It looks the same as Doom XBLA, just replacing the Iwad with DooM2.
Still, the thought of a new episode for DooM 2 sounds pretty cool.
I just hope it isn't rehashed from something like Final DooM, which I think is one of the many possibilities.
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I've been waiting for this for forever. Seems like the achievements are going to be the EXACT SAME as Doom and Wolfenstein 3D with maybe some slight differences. Avatar Awards confirmed? I'll be using them forever. Before Avatars came out, 90% of the time I used the unlockable Doomguy gamerpic from XBLA Doom :p I'd buy and use a Doom theme/premium theme too if they came out with one.
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Nuxius said:
So in a superbly dick-headed move, they showcased corporate greed at its finest and decided that profit was more important than human life and sued the Red Cross for copyright infringement.


So, henceforth, I will use that logo as much as possible on everything relevant.

Why would you SUE the red cross? For fucks sake...
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