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Mr. T
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The composer for Doom re-used one of his Wolfenstein tracks for Map04. I changed the Doom II music page on the Doom wiki to reflect that, but it got reverted, so I guess this isn't as common knowledge as I thought.

The Wolfenstein version sounds like shite (adlib) but has a neat ending that was taken out of the Doom one, probably because it would sound out of place.

Does anyone have a link to this?

03-01-10 14:49 #

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Gez
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Wouldn't have been reverted if you had said from which Wolf 3D level it came...

As for a link, you should find about all the data you might need here: http://www.afadoomer.com/wolf3d/default.php

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Mr. T
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Gez said:
Wouldn't have been reverted if you had said from which Wolf 3D level it came...

Sure...http://www.doomworld.com/vb/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Assholery aside, that link wasn't really helpful. Something along the lines of an mp3 or youtube link would be appreciated, so everyone can have a listen. I will have a look but its kind of painful doing it from my phone.

/edit: This isn't the track on it's own... but you get the idea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9e7...e=youtube_gdata

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Gez
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Just saying that an unsourced, anonymous assertion is naturally met with skepticism.

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TimeOfDeath
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I wouldn't be surprised if map04 was a remake of the wolf song, but it's not exactly the same. The structure is the same (that structure is common in doom songs) but it's still different.

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Mr. T
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Found it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkwI...e=youtube_gdata

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Gez said:

As for a link, you should find about all the data you might need here: http://www.afadoomer.com/wolf3d/default.php

You're wrong if you think that TC plays the same as the real game. It's only a fun project, not a replacement or port.

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printz said:
You're wrong if you think that TC plays the same as the real game. It's only a fun project, not a replacement or port.

Because everyone knows you can't circle-strafe in Wolf3d without ninja alt-skillz.

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Mr. T said:
Found it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkwI...e=youtube_gdata

K it's just the same typical blues progression that Bobby Prince uses in every song. Seriously, a ton of his songs use this progression.

Inspired? Maybe. Short in ideas and dipped into his old pool? Maybe. Not the same song though

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Mr. T
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I think it's the same, much in the same way Map01's music is based off "Hangar 18"... etc

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Fisk
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Okay no, everything you are saying is making zero sense.

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Bashe
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Like Ralphis said, it's a blues progression. It's everywhere. That doesn't mean it's the same song.

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Gez
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printz said:
You're wrong if you think that TC plays the same as the real game.

Was I talking about playing the game? No, I was talking about playing the music. "Data". All the wolf data is there, so you can just extract the soundtrack from the music folder and check each song.

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printz
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I believe I saw you make some more bias in the past on the afadoomer tc, so I've just made my point here, probably while being on a tangent, if hopefully totally wrong. Good point yours here, and that tc is a good candidate for Viewtiful-Chris's questioning thread.

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Mr. T said:
I think it's the same, much in the same way Map01's music is based off "Hangar 18"... etc

I think Chimpanzees are monkeys but that doesn't make it right

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TimeOfDeath
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I just listened to Hangar 18 and the first part in that song is basically the same as MAP01 (it's a pretty common riff anyway), but the MAP04 song isn't basically the same as the Wolf song. They have similar things about them, but nothing is the same.

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