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Phobus said:
I am reluctant to play (or flat-out refuse to play) the following:

-Plutonia MAP11 and other Arch-Vile mazes
-Any/all Icon of Sin maps - even the one I made in Scourge
-Big slaughter maps - I've never played Sunder, Slaughterfest, New Gothic or most of Time of Death's maps, for examples, whilst I have happily played through AV, Plutonia 2, SoD, HR, HR2 and Kama Sutra (just to give an idea of where I draw the line). The second I see a big grid of monsters in a large, open area, I've lost interest
-Joke WADs - I've given some a go, thought they were alright (Wills made some good ones) and then seen a huge number of things (Terry's and Doomguy2000's stuff, for example) that I flat-out refuse to even give a go
-Maps that rely on speed running tricks. I can live with strafe running, but when I have to try and get glides and stuff, I generally lose interest
-HeXen and Heretic - The games themselves didn't appeal to me too much, even though I've beaten them both once in their entirety, but I am yet to ever want to play a .WAD for them all the way through, IIRC

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qoncept said:
Which reminds me.. does MAP30 have to end with an Icon of Sin? Could it not just end with a regular switch? I've played through probably a couple dozen megawads now and every single one of them has Romero's head on a stick at the end.

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Memfis said:

Play Vilecore. :)

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I loved it! But there are some probs when it comes to CooP play. Like traps that trigger allowinhg only one playing to access an area. But if you die afterwords theres no way to go back thru the path. Hope that all gets fixed in Vilecore II :)

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qoncept said:
(In relation to fixes in Vilecore 2)
Can't do it.

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qoncept said:

Which reminds me.. does MAP30 have to end with an Icon of Sin? Could it not just end with a regular switch? I've played through probably a couple dozen megawads now and every single one of them has Romero's head on a stick at the end.
Which goes to show how good some mappers are at thinking outside the box ;) I also hate IoS maps and have never seriously tried to beat one. They stress me out and it's also annoying when your timing is as bad as mine.

[QUOTE]qoncept said:

Also, after playing the first few maps of Speed of Doom the other night, I hope I never see an instant teleporting monster again. The concept makes absolutely no sense, and SoD does it at what seems to be completely random times. Stupid and annoying.

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40oz said:
surprised how many Plutonia MAP11 mentions in this thread. That map was horrifying when I was younger, but that map kinda alleviates my fear of archviles. If you give it a chance, it's really not all that hard.

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MajorRawne said:

What do you mean? God I forgot all about Vilecore 2, is he still working on that?

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40oz said:
surprised how many Plutonia MAP11 mentions in this thread. That map was horrifying when I was younger, but that map kinda alleviates my fear of archviles. If you give it a chance, it's really not all that hard.

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Pirx said:
it's not that hard because of the arch-viles, if you know how to handle them. the idea of playing hide and seek with viles is pretty cool. it's hard because of the layout imo, it looks all the same to me so it's easy to get lost.

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obake said:
I've never liked Doom 2's The Tenements. Mainly because of that one red colored room, with the narrow stairs going down towards one of the keys. As soon as you reach the bottom, doors with monsters open up all around you, and you're forced to run up to the door as quickly as possible without falling off of the pathway, or else you'll be swimming in lava. I've always hated that room.

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