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Maes said:
Just a question here, about the BlackRook WAD management libraries:

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Have these points changed in the latest version, as it seems that some or all of those operations are now possible (from a superficial browsing of the current API, at least)?

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MTrop said:
I currently do not have a method for stacking WADs in the way Doom does in order to simulate how it reads patch data, however.

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MTrop said:
How does Doom, ZDoom/Hexen, and UDMF sound? ;)

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40oz said:
could you make like an image viewer program that you can run with wads to look at overhead automap views of maps?

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Maes said:

I don't know how feasible it is to manipulate the contents of an instantiated WadFile object in order to perform lump merges and insertions at precise point, zero-lump size hacks etc.

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Maes said:

Also, do you use simple vanilla-like reverse-index name-based searching or a hashtable mechanism like Boom, which is much faster?

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Maes said:

As for the map format, I saw that you have the proper object types, but a source port developer would probably have to make a choice between using your level loading routines and objects (which might be OK, but I don't know how much their encapsulation would end up in cluttered syntax or performance issues, vs using simpler objects), or using his own (Doom and Boom loading routines also do some form of manipulation on the objects they just read, and some structures have different on-disk and in-memory forms.

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C30N9 said:
1- Doom-format word: By this I mean you can write any word in the same format as doom map titles or small letters with various colors, and then save it as a picture to use for PWADs.

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C30N9 said:
2- Sprite Rename: With this program you can easily name a group of sprites and very fast. For example if I wanted to name the thing SAMP, I need to rename the sprites manually by renaming each one to SAMPA1, SAMPA2, SAMPA3, SAMPC3 and so on. But with this program you can just add SAMP as the base name, and the program will put the names in order you desire automatically. [/B]

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C30N9 said:
2- Sprite Rename: With this program you can easily name a group of sprites and very fast. For example if I wanted to name the thing SAMP, I need to rename the sprites manually by renaming each one to SAMPA1, SAMPA2, SAMPA3, SAMPC3 and so on. But with this program you can just add SAMP as the base name, and the program will put the names in order you desire automatically.

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Marrub said:

Use SLADE 3 for this. It has batch file renaming, eg
SAMPA0
SAMPB0
rename dialogue:
SAMP**
to
TNT1**
and it renames them to
TNT1A0
TNT1B0

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Tango said:
how about a program that flips maps upside down, a-la Symphony of the Night? :p reverses floor and ceiling heights, etc. if you could even make it automatically generate upside-down versions of the textures too i'd give you a million dollars

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Xaser said:

Hmm, now that I've written it out, I'm tempted to tackle this myself. Might try doing it with Qt since I haven't done C++ in ages and could use some practical practice (and perhaps some less redundant phrasing).

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MTrop said:
Hey, all.

I've bumped the thread because I have released (into beta) not 1, not 2, but 3 new utilities. Two requested, one NOT requested!

Jump to the release post!

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MTrop said:
ThingSpy v0.9 - Output or search for thing editor numbers by map lump.
Source - Standalone JAR - Win32 L4J

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Enjay said:
Quick test on a WAD containing well over 100 maps in ZDoomHexen format and it seemed to handle it perfectly. I particularly like the additional switches. The ability to return only the maps with the thing on it will save me a lot of searching time.

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Enjay said:
As an additional thought, could either of these programs be extended (or perhaps a separate utility might be better) to allow them to make a batch change of texture/flat/thing? ie to change thing# X to thing# Y or texture X to texture Y in all maps passed to the util on the command line. Perhaps a config file or something might be useful so the user could make a list of from and to thing numbers / textures and have multiple changes take place. If not, so be it. I'm delighted with thingspy as it is. :D

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MTrop said:
When will you need to do actual insertions? Does Doom maintain a virtual image of a WAD in memory (content on disk, virtual data in memory)?

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Archy said:
Basically, changes map 01 to map 12, map 02 to map 13, map 03 to map 14... map 09 to map 31.

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Archy said:
Basically, changes map 01 to map 12, map 02 to map 13, map 03 to map 14... map 09 to map 31.

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myk said:
You can do that in a batch file by making a certain input (%1 %2, etc) equal the level (variable) you want.

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myk said:
By the way, you had asked if I could send you my batch files. I will do so soon but first I wanted to fix and add a few things.

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Gez said:
So as to play No Rest For The Living in engines without a MAPINFO-like system? :p

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Maes said:
Ports like Boom do alter the relative order of certain lumps in memory during WAD loading time, and coalesce blocks of similar-purpose lumps together e.g. for being able to load sprites from a PWAD, they must all be in one contiguous block, as do flats, so any additional sprite block present in PWADs must be merged with base ones, overwriting some in the process (NB overwriting occurs only at the pointer/index level!). In addition, they look for special markers e.g. SS_START and SS_END (Deutex markers for sprite blocks) and FF_START/FF_END for flats, in order to identify any and all blocks of additional sprites.

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• Maps
  
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• Textures
  
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• Other (Globals, Sounds, Palettes, etc.)
  

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MTrop said:
The textures I think, at the very least, should be sorted, since Doom has that "first alphabetical texture is invalid" idiosyncrasy.

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MTrop said:
Also, I've received a request from bcwood16 for a GUI for operating MD2Tool (model tool for Doomsday Engine) so that's gotta go on the list.

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Tango said:


if he did i'd really like to see it :D


gggpenis, where are you

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