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kulma
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magikal said:
Also I think the idea is to kick these 2 maps around for a few days or even a week to see what you can come up with.


uh, i think i've already kicked around map02 and e1m2 for TWO weeks. i mean, the two most played maps after map01 and e1m1 :P well if you didn't like my demos then i can't help you :P

and heh, compet-n speed for uv map02 is 40 seconds, and i'm struggling with twice the time, i don't think there's much to do with compet-n demos with thses ones, even if they'd be recorded with vanilla doom. but if i'll post another demo here, i'll make sure it's from a source port, okay?-P

e1m3 speed is tough! :)

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DEMOn said:
Magikal: Is MBF okay, then? MBF is the only windows port I can tolerate for movement.

I would think so. It's a great port isn't it? You don't see it used or mentioned much nowadays (generally that is) and I know exactly what you mean about the movement.

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no offense to anyone, but I can't stand the extra movement and non-Doom 'feel' to almost all the source ports.
and this thread was also about showing how you 'just play' the game... and Doom.exe is what I use.
Boom/MBF are very close to the real thing though. it is hard to play seriously with any of the advanced ports(Leg, Zdoom, Edge...)
an example: Ocelot's recent dm demos. no one could do that with anything but the real game.
overall, it's okay. I like to watch your guys' demos. :)
maybe I'll Zdoom e2m8 for fun...

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DEMOn said:
maybe I'll Zdoom e2m8 for fun...

I'd luv to see it. After playing ZDoom and Legacy extensively I would say Legacy's control is a lot more efficient than ZDoom's (ZDoom is superior in other areas of course). If you get a chance, look at some of the different lmps at my page, the ZDoom one was sooo much more difficult with ZDoom than Legacy(couldn't record that map with Legacy). I'm actually un-learning and changing my set-up so that I can play vanilla reasonably well, heh.
Kulma, I did enjoy you lmps btw. I just didn't want to watch the same thing over.

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Why are you guys discussing what should be used when the point is showing how you normally play? I'm obviously using doom.exe, since it's what I used almost always (had been trying to record a swift e4m6 max... indeed it is tough.)

Both prboom and doom95 should play back doom demos, by the way.

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I usually use ZDoom but I record the demos with Legacy because I don't feel like downloading the older version of ZDoom, and the 1.23 b33 doesn't playback demos correctly. Oh well, the Legacy demos show me pretty well.

Oh, and there is a ZDoom demo of me playing Grind2. It's on easy mode, so it plays back correctly.

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Oh well, 2:15 maxdemo of e1m2. Legacy 1.40, at the exit lift I seem to sink through the lift floor, luckily I could get out of there. :P

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1:33 maxdemo of map02, legacy.

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Well, I just managed Map02 NM in 2:50 - slow and careful. Tough map for NM; 112% kills tells the story quite eloquently. I'll send it to Opulent in a few days if I can't manage anything better.

I tried ITYTD (skill 1) Pacifist, but found it extremely difficult... I reached the blue armour once but with only about 5% health.

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Grazza: remember that you can grab the red key without crossing the linedef.
the 2 lower areas with the blue key are horrendous for pacifist.
still hasn't been done for the compet-n, IIRC.
good job on the nm!

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Espi said:
1:33 maxdemo of map02, legacy.


Damn! I managed to get only 1.35 maxdemo on UV :) I'll send it to opulent soon.

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Opulent said:
Grazza: remember that you can grab the red key without crossing the linedef.
Yes, I used that trick! The 112% really did involve a lot of rekilling.

Indeed, UV Pacifist has only been done as a TAS run, but I thought skill 1 ought to be feasible. I suppose it should be too, but very careful planning and play would surely be required (together with luck, luck and more luck).

I did a UV -fast max run (2:01 - bah!), but haven't managed a time on UV Speed or UV Max that I even deemed worth of saving. Anything in the 1:30s looks impressive to me for UV Max.

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Kulma: Your e1m3 link is broken.

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Opulent said:
Kulma: Your e1m3 link is broken.
Dun Dun Dunnnnnnnnn

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Legay map02 demo again, 1:31 nightmare 100% secrets.

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Opulent said:
Kulma: Your e1m3 link is broken.

fixed, forgot to upload :P

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updated. let me know if I missed something...
Espi's demos are nice... and Magikal whomped on e2m8 in style. :)

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Agreed Grazza, anything in the 1:30's is pretty cool, nice work Espi! I'm still goin' at it....

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Ok, I just sent Map02 UV max 1.35 to opulent. The E2M1 is now there, thanks! I think you missed the map04 demo I sent you.

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1:28 :P

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Doomer4ever: nope, it's there.
perhaps refresh the page?
http://www.doomworld.com/sda/id/d4e04.zip right?

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E2M2 using just berserk fist... no sounds, I was listening to some mp3s. legacy

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cheesy speedrun of FinalDoom TNT Evilution map 31 in 0:45 on UV



edit: recorded with Prboom

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awesome, a new player!
Are you Kaiser or Deathman? :)

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both ;)

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Opulent!

In the spirit of demos for individual style, as opposed to the fastest possible time, I have sent you map 20 in 6:49 using Legacy 1.4.


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Could I request a demo? Can someone play MAP30 UV? It doesn't have to be speed or anything, I'd just like to actually see someone beat it.

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Here. doom2.exe, because I didn't want to cheat with legacy's freelook and couldn't be arsed to turn it off and stuff. :P Just casual play, missed the brain a couple times.

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Nanami said:
Could I request a demo? Can someone play MAP30 UV? It doesn't have to be speed or anything, I'd just like to actually see someone beat it.
On DoomII? well I got one, if anyone is nice enough to host it I'll email it to them...its done on UV, 3800% kills, 3:52..not the best, but, meh...


on second thought, Opulent, I'll send you it, kay?

EDIT:...Sent to ya Opulent :)

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Opulent!

I'm sending you another individual style demo. This one is a max of map 29 in 8:54 using Legacy 1.4.

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