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ArmouredBlood
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It's interesting seeing how another person plays a map. I usually sit tight and don't let myself get surrounded but you go straight in there. Nice demos.

07-16-09 01:59 #

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The Green Herring
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I tend to play very aggressively, especially when recording speedruns. It frequently yields good results, even if it means I get killed a lot in the process. ;)

Anyway, here are three new UV max demos. Two are for very old Doom levels, and were recorded with Ultimate Doom; the other is for a Boom level which is currently in newstuff/, and was recorded with Boom itself. Check them out.

MEAT-353.ZIP - MEAT.WAD by Carolyn Schulenburg in 3:53
NIN-449.ZIP - Nine Inch Nails (NINDM.WAD) by Jason Staples in 4:49
nr4u-320.zip - No Rockets For You (ww-nr4u.wad) by WildWeasel in 3:20

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07-26-09 04:50 #

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tatsurd-cacocaco
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I did Doom City on all standard categories.

code:
 Category          Time
--------------------------
  UV-Speed          0:37
  NM-Speed          0:57
  UV-Max            2:34
  NM-100S           1:10
  UV-fast           2:43
  UV-respawn        1:53
  UV-pacifist       1:01
  UV-Tyson          4:31
--------------------------

Actually, this wad is the second wad which I have ever played. The map is short and easy but very fun and great. There are real buildings (a supermarket, a convenience store, a bank, a library, etc...).

I was surprised and impressed by the map very much when I played first. I was reminded of this wad recently, so I recorded these demos.

Enjoy!

Attachment: doomcity_lmps.zip
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Last edited by tatsurd-cacocaco on 08-05-09 at 16:47

08-05-09 16:41 #

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gggmork
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dr2008v2 map 10 (death destiny's 'soulscarred universe') uvmax in 28:35.

The end could be faster but speed is harder on long maps. I'm pretty sure one of the secrets can't be triggered. I did complevel 9 (probably supposed to be 2 or 9 but I have a tendency to guess wrong).
Cybers can sometimes be cornered by enemies preventing them from moving/shooting causing them to infight/die, which can affect ammo available, speed and difficulty. On 2 previous runs I accidently got the yellow key too early while running backwards, thus triggering the viles and dying.

just saw anima's hmp max. Its better quality with a faster route. Probably 10 min or more could be shaved off my demo, heh.

Attachment: d2102835.zip
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Last edited by gggmork on 08-17-09 at 11:52

08-17-09 10:41 #

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vdgg
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I'll post something sloppy this time, in this thread of very good and outstanding demos...

MAP04 Tyson

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08-18-09 20:09 #

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vdgg
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Oops, problems with attachments (I put a file with a wrong name, then deleted it, now it should be OK)

Attachment: p2041348.zip
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08-18-09 20:17 #

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vdgg
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2002ADO Miscellanea:

E1M1 (The Entry): Stroller in :46
E2M1 (Station Alpha): Pacifist in 4:10
E3M1 (Gatehouse): Tyson in 3:52

Attachment: adomisc.zip
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08-25-09 22:40 #

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myk
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^ Any reason why those aren't Doom compatible? (2002ADO is.)

In any case, finding them in the folder where I place demos I still need to watch, I had to come back to the thread to check out who recorded them because the text files don't say :p

(You can sign as vdgg, if you like, no problem.)

EDIT: Same goes for your PL2 Tyson, which I moved here as that thread's for (Final) Doom compatible demos (as per the title.) Keep up the good work, although in the future I recommend recording in the usual demo formats (Doom or Boom) according to what the WAD requires, if you don't mind, as it makes the demos fully comparable to most others.

08-28-09 19:33 #

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dew
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yeah, vdgg never signs his textfiles...

08-28-09 19:47 #

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vdgg
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The 3 demos for 2002ADO were recorded with doom.wad version 1.9ud (12408292 Bytes), because it's the only version of doom.wad I have.

I was pretty sure the Tyson demo for pl2.wad was OK in terms of compatibility and posted in the right place. Isn't -iwad plutonia the same thing as -complevel 4?

Not signing my textfiles is dumb, of course, and will be corrected.

08-28-09 20:36 #

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myk
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The -iwad parameter simply selects the IWAD, the main WAD file to use, while the -complevel tells PrBoom itself how to behave as an engine and what demo format to use. Normally PrBoom has its own engine behavior, -complevel 17 or -1, which is roughly based on MBF, and has various settings that affect all sorts of different individual compatibility aspects, such as whether lost souls will bounce on the floor, how stairs are built, how things behave near ledges, whether pain elementals can spawn an infinite anount of lost souls, and so on. The lower compatibility levels, such as Doom (2-4) and Boom (9) ignore most of these individual settings and behave like doom.exe, doom2.exe or boom.exe, and produce demos that can be played back with those.

If you open your demos with a hex or text editor you'll see they start with �.MBF� while Doom v1.9 demos start with an m, which is 6D in hexadecimal, or 109, which marks version "1.9" of Doom. If you try to play your demos with Doom or Chocolate Doom they will not find that "109" version marker and will close with the error "Demo is from a different game version!"

You can also see the two sticky threads about demo compatibility levels, for more info.

08-28-09 20:56 #

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vdgg
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Vrack 3 UV Max demo.

Attachment: vr3-3757.zip
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09-05-09 17:43 #

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Erik
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vdgg said:
Vrack 3 UV Max demo.

yay!

09-05-09 18:06 #

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TimeOfDeath
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I did some maxes on Ruba's new megawad Killing Adventure. Instead of using zdoom, I used prboomplus with complevel 9 (the secret lift in map05 didn't work with complevel 2).

map02 0:52
map03 1:31
map05 0:39
map06 0:59
map13 3:46
map16 2:18
map17 1:14
map20 0:49
map21 2:19
map22 2:39
map24 1:19

demos: killadve-tod1.zip

edit: put map17 1:14 instead of 1:20

Last edited by TimeOfDeath on 09-10-09 at 07:25

09-10-09 07:02 #

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HackNeyed
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Heroes' Tales Map06 UV Max 3:07 (K:100 I:100 S:100)

A few more optimizations popped into my thoughts last night while trying to go to sleep. I didn't think I'd post it since I was only going for a sub 3:20 run but for a run that is 24 seconds faster... I thought, why not.

Attachment: ht06-307.zip
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Last edited by HackNeyed on 09-28-09 at 21:57

09-21-09 20:53 #

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gggmork
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bloodlst uvmax (but missed 3 secrets and used hud and iddt to verify max kills at end).
Playing quite slow and safe, almost an hour long.

Attachment: bldlst-about55minutes.zip
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09-22-09 01:10 #

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Okuplok
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hell revealed 2

uv-max

map12 4:29

fun map, but need alot of luck with arch-viles for good time.

Attachment: h212-429.zip
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09-22-09 14:39 #

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HackNeyed
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Updated my demo three posts up with a faster one by 24 seconds.

@gggmork

Wow gggmork! That was quite a run. I love your lengthy demos! How do you prepare or find the time to prepare for such a sizable level with all that back tracking?

09-28-09 21:59 #

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myk
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It's better to make a new attachment in your current post, unless for some reason you want to stop people from seeing your old demo (not sure why that would be.)

09-28-09 22:48 #

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gggmork
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HackNeyed said:
How do you prepare or find the time to prepare for such a sizable level with all that back tracking?

For a big/long/complex level, I typically do an iddqd run or type 'tntem' in prboomplus to get a feel for where stuff is. Then I usually open it in doombuilder and spend awhile planning on what appears to be a fast route. For some maps there is a non-obvious walk over line or something so this is almost necessary (in this map for example, it was much easier to look in doombuilder to see that there was an important reverent-horde releasing walk over line near a main central switch). If the map has difficulty settings, it helps to filter/delete all non-uv things when looking in doombuilder (I wrongly thought a huge horde of uv reverents was demons for awhile).

For long maps I tend to do a practice uv run with saves which helps confirm which routes are reasonably safe/fast/possible. So the final run is fairly planned. That run could probably be a lot faster, like not sure if causing that huge infight at the end was faster or slower (but it seemed safer), and long levels require playing more safely to do it in a reasonable number of attempts.

09-29-09 02:12 #

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HackNeyed
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@gggmork

Thanks for the info, it confirms some ideas I had and gives me others. I applaud your endurance and I think I'll stick to the cozy maps and maybe work my way up to the epics.

@myk

OK, I'll remember that for the future.

09-30-09 09:06 #

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Never_Again
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After being more than five years in production, the demo pak for WADPAK3.WAD is complete!
Each of the 27 levels has been done both GM-style (UV Max -fast) and on Nightmare!:

code:=map==source========author=========================GM Max====NM====rating=
E1M1* COMBAT.WAD    Karl R. Peters                   2:18  0:03       2/5
E1M2* COMBAT.WAD    Karl R. Peters                   1:32  0:13       1/5
E1M3* COMBAT.WAD    Karl R. Peters                   1:54  0:01       1/5
E1M9  NM0001.WAD    Patrick Wickwire                 4:32  1:01       3/5
E1M4  MEMPHIS.WAD   David Mansfield & Karl LaRocca   9:12  2:23       4/5
E1M5  AFRO.WAD      Tim Scott                        4:51  0:00       3/5
E1M6  UCA.WAD       Eddie Nguyen                     9:57  5:41       5/5
E1M7  RUNLKHL2.WAD  Duffy Knox                      11:49  3:24       4/7
E1M8  NGS1.WAD      Erik Badger                     12:08  3:18       3/5

E2M1  MAVERICK.WAD  Tom Neff                         2:44  0:03       2/5
E2M2**WOODHALL.WAD  David Damerell                   4:30  2:35       3/5
E2M3  STORAGE.WAD   Sean R. Malloy                   6:30  2:55       3/5
E2M4  CYKE.WAD      Joe Popp (aka cYcLoPs)           5:41  2:28       3/5
E2M5~ YOUNG1.WAD    Alistair Young                   8:29  1:36       5/5
E2M9  DIOPATRA.WAD  Eddie Nguyen                    14:08  1:14/0:12  3/5
E2M6* SYMBOLIC.WAD  eric.birnie@canrem.com           6:26  4:00       4/5
E2M7  PROCESSR.WAD  Curtis Turner II                 8:50  2:13       4/5
E2M8  REALM10.WAD   Darren K. McKeigan               6:42  3:07       4/5

E3M1* TECHBASE.WAD  Brandon Reinhart                 5:37  2:34       1/5
E3M2  THEKEEP2.WAD  Norman Scott                     3:52  0:21       3/5
E3M3  CORE.WAD      Barry Ferg                       6:14  0:37       4/5
E3M4  OPOST21.WAD   Scott Amspoker                   7:36  2:30       3/5
E3M5  CROSFR01.WAD  Don Schuster                     8:35  0:40       3/5
E3M6  SPORTS.WAD    Alan Retlick                     4:49  2:17       2/5
E3M9  E1M1SAS.WAD   Scott A. Smith                  13:29  4:46       4/5
E3M7  H_HOTEL.WAD   Brian Plumb                     11:37  8:48       3/5
E3M8  OFFICE.WAD    Joe Kontrad                      9:55  2:02       2/5
==========================================================================
*   no secrets present
**  only 50% secrets possible
~   reject overflow, use the fixed version WP3-25fx.WAD

Download and enjoy.

Edit: here is the demo pattern update for this demopak::

code:demo_pattern1674          "wadpak3.wad E2M5 reject overflow fix/((wp3-25na)|(wp3-25nm))\.lmp/doom.wad|wadpak3.wad|wp3-25fx.wad"
demo_pattern1675          "wadpak3.wad/((wp3-[1-3][1-9]na)|(wp3-[1-3][1-9]nm)|wp3-29n2)\.lmp/doom.wad|wadpak3.wad"

Just add these two lines to the Demo Pattern list section of your prboom-plus.cfg or glboom+.cfg - see this thread for details.

Last edited by Never_Again on 10-05-09 at 14:14

10-02-09 12:27 #

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TimeOfDeath
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100pctv2.wad max/reality 1:19
(the map was intended for max/reality)

Also, a max movie from September 2008 on barbamaps6.wad (infinite ammo coop wad)
MAP01 - 6:44 - no deaths, soulsphere
MAP02 - 5:44 - no deaths, bfg
MAP03 - 3:53 - no deaths
MAP04 - 3:56 - no deaths, also reality
MAP05 - 3:04 - no deaths
MAP06 - 3:10 - no deaths
MAP07 - 3:42 - no deaths
MAP08 - 2:57 - 3 deaths, bfg
MAP09 - 11:10 - 2 deaths, bfg
MAP10 - 5:00 - no deaths, megasphere
MAP11 - 4:05 - no deaths, also reality
MAP12 - 4:42 - no deaths, also reality

TOTAL - 58:07 (zdoom 2.2.0)

10-05-09 06:58 #

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TimeOfDeath
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vatosquare-singleplayer max 10:50 (zdoom 2.2.0 with infinite ammo)

Vatoloko posted that map on the ZDaemon forums. It looks like a remake of SQUARES but apparently he's never seen that map before. heh

EDIT: btw, I'm still using zdoom 2.2.0 because I can't get "no bfg aiming" to work in the newest zdoom. I type in the dmflags in the batch file, but it still aims bfg.

Last edited by TimeOfDeath on 10-08-09 at 19:41

10-08-09 18:41 #

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gggmork
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That does look like squares.

10-08-09 23:25 #

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HackNeyed
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Another whack at Heroes' Tales on Map05 this time. UV Max 4:04 (K:100 I:100 S:100).

I Could probably do a little better if I kept at it. meh.

@ Andy Olivera

Since you are keeping my 3:31 demo of map06 you may want to note that I avoided the lone secret area in that one.

Attachment: ht05-404.zip
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10-11-09 07:29 #

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Never_Again
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Kudos for trying H'T, HackNeyed! There is an excellent first-try (aka First Demo Attempt) demo pak for it, too, I still have to ask the author why he didn't put it up here.
Here is my own first FDA set castle3_na for castle.wad from castle3.zip, featured in the latest /newstuff installment. Highly recommended for those special occasions when your mother-in-law pays a visit and you're totally out of ideas as to how to entertain her. :D

10-17-09 07:12 #

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gggmork
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Just a failed run for claust.wad map 4 (beat mastermind then died), a map with scripted projectile patterns. Its skill 3, because 4 is pretty hard and seemingly meant to use save points.

This is the wad link:
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=12364

needs zdoom 2.3.1:

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Last edited by gggmork on 10-19-09 at 12:05

10-19-09 11:45 #

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Phml
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Heh. This looks like a bad JRPG fanfic - not the kind of stuff I'd enjoy playing, but it's so trippy it actually makes a great demo.

10-19-09 12:10 #

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myk
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In castle_na.txt, Never_Again said:
I got stuck on MAP02 seconds into the game - hopeless, abort.

It's actually possible to get out of there. Check this attached demo. You can warp to level 2 if using prboom-plus to see my heroic escape, as it's a movie.

PS: The demo is just a conservative first play.

Attachment: cstl_myk.zip
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10-21-09 13:32 #

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