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VinceDSS
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nice to see somebody else that enjoys making long demos :D

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emailking said:
File is named wrong. The demo is 111 minutes 27 sec. Not 1 hr. 11 min 27 sec.
Yeah, although now the new name has another problem; it's not DOS compatible due to its length of 12 characters (9+3). I'd suggest 11127e11.zip (in lower case, for the Apache server's sake).

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Thank you for the feedback, folks. The demo is quite slow by Compet-N standards and has its share of dumb moments (like missing the Blue Key and having to run across half the level again on Pharao). I've had much better-looking tries, more lively and flashy, but none of them were complete. Eugene nailed the problem:

Eugene said:
It was always a problem for me to play an episode without speeding up and messing up then.

emailking, thank you for catching the mistake. When the demo was recorded, I was running on about 20 hrs without sleep; that's how I interpreted 111:27 as 1hr 11min 27sec, heh. Re-uploaded with the filenames corrected and TXT file updated accordingly: 11127E11.

edit: myk, I considered the 8+3 DOS issue, but thought it was not an issue in 2008. How many of us run DOS? Better yet, how many actually read the WEB or FTP under DOS? =)
A week ago I moved DOOM from my main box - dual-boot Win2000/Win98 - to what used to be a video server and is now a dedicated DOOM box. I toyed with the idea of installing MS-DOS 6.3 from the original diskettes for the authentic feel, then remembered the 2GB partition limit in FAT16 and no USB mouse and decided not to.
But vanilla won't see a 9+3 LMP, so you have a point there. Re-uploaded yet again - thank you.

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Never_Again said:
I considered the 8+3 DOS issue, but thought it was not an issue in 2008. How many of us run DOS?
Anachronisms and conveniences aside, consider that even the /idgames archive (which unlike COMPET-N accepts files that have nothing to do with DOS) still abides by the 8+3 limit, at least for the ZIPs.


But vanilla won't see a 9+3 LMP, so you have a point there.
If the OS does, it will. In Windows you can use the shortened name, such as (for 11127EV11.LMP):

doom2 -playdemo 11127e~1

I've been watching various long-named CFD demos in that way, without renaming them, just occasionally checking the corresponding short name with the dir command.

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...without speeding up and messing up then.

Yeah, exactly this is my problem too. I always try to play as fast as I can which results in either death or a missed monster.

On a side note, I've grown to hate the first two maps. Map01 for wanting me to play tyson which I such horribly at and map02 for killing me more times than I care to count. Other than that I love the maps I played so far as practice.

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xit-vono said:
I just did a nightmare demo for requiem map15 to the secret exit, so I think that leaves just 4 left (plus map15 normal exit).

Just watched your demo.

An excellent run. Good luck with the normal exit.

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I'm glad you liked the demo. I've done the normal exit now, as well as a nightmare secrets demo. If you've seen the secret exit run these demos aren't really anything new. Next I would like to do a nightmare run for av20.

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It is good to see you are still uploading demos, Xit. I have really enjoyed watching your runs over the years. Good luck with an20.

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Well, I've completed the nightmare demo for av20. It should be a pretty entertaining demo. Enjoy!

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xit-vono said:
It should be a pretty entertaining demo.
Indeed. I really liked how NM's qualities played in there. You had to watch your back for respawns quite a lot while trying to eliminate the fast monsters before you.

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Outstanding run, Jim! Such a bitchy map for NM...

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Nm demo for av20 is really outstanding achievement.

I'm going to watch asap.

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I have a treat for you guys. I did a nightmare movie for TNT from map21 to the end of the game. I guess Never_Again's max movie inspired me to try this. Hope you enjoy it!

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Is it 3212tn21? It's 0KB - is the FTP out of space again? :( I can't wait to see this one, there are some tough maps to dodge your way through there.

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Oh wow, can't wait to see this. I love this year already and it's only january.

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Hmm, unless Grazza can modify incoming we need to tell Doug. I'll do that just in case.

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Yeah, I was unable to upload it. Hopefully Doug will post it here.

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xit-vono said:
Hopefully Doug will post it here.
Did you mail it to him? (In that case I need not alert him).

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myk said:
Did you mail it to him? (In that case I need not alert him).

Yes I did.

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Upload has been fixed and my, was it a treat! Another mind-blowing run from Xit Vono, done in such a casual way as to make it look like UV. The demo is not without nerve-wrecking moments, for all that. I almost jumped out of the chair when on Mount Pain he was steamrolling through that wall of Imps with the Invul inexorably fading away. Damn, this is going to make the 3rd episode max run I'm working on look like a bum picking cans in alleyways. :D I bow to the master!

The way you grabbed the Invisibility on Baron's Den was interesting, I hadn't thought of that before. Was it intentional?

The detailed notes are a big bonus, Xit; I love reading those. Thank you very much, you made my day.

edit: I'm sitting down to it again. Damn, this one will bear many replays!

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Nope, that was not intentional. The first time that happened I was surprised and didn't know what to do next, but I decided to continue on as I usually do.

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xit-vono said:
I have a treat for you guys. I did a nightmare movie for TNT from map21 to the end of the game. I guess Never_Again's max movie inspired me to try this. Hope you enjoy it!

I haven't had the chance to watch it yet, but it looks like it should be very interesting. Keep it up!

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Great demo Xit. What an accomplishment!

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The Czech Doom speedrunning site seems to be down (at least in terms of demo links). I don't know if that is a temporary thing, but I have put a copy of the collection from there here, so that they won't be lost permanently.

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The nearly 11-year-old TNT MAP21 UV -fast record has been finally improved upon. I was going to post the first exit on Monday when I saw Xit's third episode NM run posted mere minutes before. I thought it was a remarkable coincidence, both of us working on the same map; and of course the first exit wouldn't do anymore, especially as I exited with some 20 rox and over 100 cells unused - what a waste, heheh! The polishing took a bit longer than I expected, but here it is at last.
The LMP is accompanied by extensive notes, something I would like to see more often. I took the liberty of poking a little fun at the decade-old strategies of the previous record, I hope no one takes it as a slight to the veterans of the demo scene whom I respect very much.

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Never_Again said:
The polishing took a bit longer than I expected, but here it is at last.
The LMP is accompanied by extensive notes, something I would like to see more often.



Good stuff. I agree on the notes. After working so hard to achieve some of these times, I would think most people would have a lot more to say about their accomplishment; however, I don't really mind what the .txt file looks like if the demo is good.

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Finally had time to watch the latest demos on the TNT front(exams suck). Very nice -fast run Never_Again and Xit's NM run was all kinds of awesome.
After reading the text file to map21 I realized the horrible truth. I never knew there was a Final Doom GM demopack!!! Where can I find it? It'll be probably quite dated now but I'd like to see how the maps were played in earlier days and maybe get a little inspiration.

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DeDo said:
After reading the text file to map21 I realized the horrible truth. I never knew there was a Final Doom GM demopack!!! Where can I find it? It'll be probably quite dated now but I'd like to see how the maps were played in earlier days and maybe get a little inspiration.
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=7677

Also, cool demos, Xit and Never Again! I found the thing NA does in the rocket launcher room myself after watching Xit's tn21 demo, but I neglected to mention it. Nice to see NA found it too. Nice stuff in any case!

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DeDo said:
Where can I find it?
You can also get the initial Team TNT wad demo packs from their Demo Central section.

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Hi all!
I never thought I could beat any Compet-N demo :)). But here it is:
ftp://competn.doom2.net:8002/pub/co...ng/ps11-054.zip

What do you think? =)

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