Grazza
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Graim said:
Concerning the intentional dammage to a barel - i don't see it as a violation of a pacifist's ideals and i can't agree with what Grazza said - in that manner you should call the intentional monsters infighting non-pacifist too. you just 'help' the mosters kill themselves in both cases.
Please note that my last sentence started "If", not "If and only if". That is, this is a guideline to assess demos that feature damage to monsters that is within the "marginal" areas of pacifist (telefrags, indirect damage from other map features that the player has interacted with either by shooting or otherwise activating). Provoking infighting is explicitly OK by the pacifist rules and this guideline therefore doesn't apply to it.
I think one of the most intelligent comments I have seen on this type of question was the one by Xit-Vono here:
My opinion is that telefrags should be allowed under most circumstances. For example, if you are simply running the level as fast as possible you can get away with anything, even running into a teleport just after a monster. However, if you slow down to wait for a monster to reach a teleport spot(or for him to enter before you), then that would be not allowed. Also, for crushers, if you activate it by switch, then it should rarely be allowed, except for example rq08 where there is no other way to finish the map. I doubt that rq08 is possible anyways due to tons of blocking monsters, but this would be an example of what I'm talking about. If you activate a crusher by walking over a line and that line is on your route, then it's ok to kill monsters with them, as long as you don't slow down to lure monsters under them.
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