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Now that pa26 is complete, I have decided to take a look at some undone challenges. Originally posted at compet-n
Pacifist:
# Ultimate DOOM E2M8: Unless you get lost souls to freeze the cyberdemon or some other weirdness, I think it's safe to assume this one is not possible.
# Ultimate DOOM E4M6: Same problem here, cacos are not even close to being able to kill the cyberdemon (unless they freeze it - but I haven't seen that happen yet).
# DOOM2 MAP02: There's very little space to move and dodge around (especially down near the blue key). Still, recent tool-assisted runs showed some hope - I certainly wouldn't mark this as impossible.
# DOOM2 MAP07: I can't think of any way to do this really.
# DOOM2 MAP17: This map is pure hell all the way through, and the hardest part being at the exit. Certainly more unlikely than MAP02, IMHO.
# DOOM2 MAP26: If someone manages to get past the imps and reach the red key, and do it reliably - the rest isn't that hard at all really. But I guess it takes quite extraordinary luck to make it to the red key and back.
# DOOM2 MAP29: I think my comments for MAP17 apply here as well. Maybe this one is has a bit more hope.
# DOOM2 MAP30: I don't know what to say. Get archies to attack Romero? Yeah, right.
Tyson:
# Ultimare DOOM E2M8: This one is a mind game. Patrick Martin once killed 5 barons on E4M1 without berserk and not much infighting (Remember?). Yes, a cyberdemon is tougher than 4 barons, but there's quite some health around (and there are 50 "free" pistol shots).
# Ultimate DOOM E4M6: This one is nearly the same problem as Pacifist, with the added difficulty of having to kill everyone else as well. The invul doesn't last long either. I'd say very unlikely.
# Ultimate DOOM E4M7: I actually have some experience on this as I completed it in a tool-assisted run (see the page when it gets posted). Not even two invuls last long enough to kill a full-health cyberdemon when he's attacking you. The bullets have to be preserved to kill a baron, two cacos and three imps. But maybe there is a way with the cyber fight I haven't thought of, who knows?
# DOOM2 MAP30: Pistol? Fists?
Well, so far the only ones left are pa02, pa17, pa30, and ty30.
Adam's comments about pa02 are right on, and I think he overestimated the difficulty of pa26 and pa29. As for pa30 and ty30, I will say that these seem to be impossible. For pa17, conventional wisdom says it should be impossible, but perhaps it's worth looking at.
Now let's talk about final doom:
Nightmare:
tn09: Stx-Vile says it's possible, and I believe him. It should be very difficult.
Nightmare secrets:
es02: I'm guessing this one can be done, but will require a good deal of luck.
es08: Silly Stx-Vile busted his ass to complete this one but forgot the chainsaw secret :) If someone can repeat his demo, then it should be nightmare secrets as well.
es09: I suppose this should be a little harder than tn09?
Pacifist:
ep05, ep06, ep09: I think not
ep08: I haven't looked at this one seriously. I'm guessing it will turn out to be too hard.
ep10, ep14: I think these are worth looking at and may be doable(although very difficult).
ep25: I'm not really sure what this one would be like.
ep26: I can't see any way to get through all those pigs.
ep28: The hard part here would be to get the red key. It's possible to pass the mancubus with some luck. I haven't considered the blue key areas though which might turn out to be too hard.
pp07: I don't see this one being done. There's just not enough stuff to kill every mancubus.
pp30: Maybe it's possible to get the cybie to shoot the boss brain, but can you do it reliably?
Tyson: Well I won't bother to list them all, but some of them are clearly possible and some may turn out to be impossible. Other categories like movies and -respawn will not be talked about in this post.
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