Heh, you're persecuting yourself. You aren't under attack here, man.
I don't think I'm a noob (I like to think I'm just one of many skilled players/mappers, but maybe others disagree), I was making fun of how some players seem to feel about certain wads that use certain features and/or options (like jumping, inf ammo, deaths, rjumping, lots of ammo/powerups/monster placement, non-traditional gameplay/layouts/detail or no detail) - wads that "apparently" have less depth than "real" wads and/or require no brain or skill to play. Ever since I joined ZDaemon in 2004, I noticed some players have been bashing these wads (even skilled players) and I don't understand why. Instead of acknowledging the different type of skills you can use in these wads, it seems like they would rather just ignore and bash them. IT MAKES ME SAD. I'm not saying I think these wads are better than others, I'm just trying to stick up for them because I actually enjoy playing and recording on them and I'm beyond sick of the misconception that these wads are for noobs.
It seems some people don't even take demos seriously if there are deaths in them (on coop wads intended to be played in coop mode w/deaths). There is strategy involved - maybe the haters would realize that if they actually tried recording. The map19 coopbuild demo was pretty boring to make, honestly. imo, my best coopbuild demos are map08 no deaths & w/deaths, map22 reality/max, map05 reality/max.
Also, I don't know why more hardcore demo recorders don't like jumping and rocket jumping. You can do so many tricks with it that test your skill. You're in control, unlike archvile jumping where you have to wait for the archvile to waltz over and shoot you up when he's good and ready. Plus with jumping, you can jump on monsters instead of having to rely on them leaving enough room for you to run by (sure, you can stay at one side to lure them that way and then run around, but their movement can still be random and it doesn't always work).
Anyway, sorry for spamming this thread with off-topic whining.
map02 max w/50% secrets 1:58
map02 max 2:06
map02 reality/max 3:10