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TimeOfDeath
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Did anyone download the map24 demo that lonestar99 posted? (I assumed it was gggmork)
I assumed it was a map24 max. If so, could someone repost it?

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Making posts on behalf of people who are banned is not OK. If you want to communicate with him, please do so outside these forums. If he wants to make posts here, he should contact the forum staff.

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I doubt gggmork is encoding secret anti-Doomworld moderators messages into his demos. Although just thinking how could someone do that might be interesting. Morse code with running/stopping/shooting as lines, spaces and dots?

I'd wager nobody cares about your personal vendetta with him here, we're just interested in the demo. Can't see what's wrong in reposting it.

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What's this 'vendetta' stuff all about? I wanted to unloser him, but he kept posting moronic nonsense that made it impossible.

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Ugh. OK, look, here is what he posted when I offered to let him out (one of many posts of a similar type):

Typical uncaring attitude of a banhammererererer; oops I killed someone, oh well, at least *I* didn't get hurt so that probably means its ethical, fetch me more grapes slaves! This year I want to simultaneously write the cacowards and win all the awards! They apparently rewarded you with metals and forum rank for killing death destiny, and now the mods are sabotaging slaughterfest showing how hatefully jealous they are of skilled players. I assume timeofdeath, phml, etc are marked men. I'm sure you will achieve your envisioned utopia of converting the whole forum to a group-thinking humorless PTA meeting, renamed banworld with a server in north korea. You even committed the exact same 'crime' as me by typing 'cool' which has 2 o's right next to eachother which can be interpreted as a digital simulation of pornographic boobs, then exempt yourself from punishment. So I guess in your twisted ideology, universal abstinence is required for everyone except you. I mean, I was just hanging around the forum, letting nature take its course in producing superior hermaphrodite offspring, then BAM- sorry, you're not allowed to reproduce, gggmork. There's a genetic monopoly here. I think I finally see it, the heart of your entire world view. You want to weed out all of future humanity's genes for doom slaughtermap playing, thus making you the most skilled player by default because everyone else will be genetically engineered to be worse. You want to breed humanity into a race of feet-handed colorblind mutants who can't distinguish between key or door color and worship you for your relative 'superior' skills and feed you grapes!
You really want to make a cause celebre out of this?

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What's this 'vendetta' stuff all about?


His posts vanishing rather than being helled. You apparently jumping on TimeOfDeath asking for a mere demo repost. There might not be anything personal against gggmork, but it feels like there is.

Really now, do you mean to tell us 1337CyberdemonxX, Mexican Doomguy or Even Bigger Robb's contributions to the Doom community are more worth preserving?

Obviously I would consider him a friend and I can't be very objective here, but we're not talking about his posting rights (which he's doing a good job at sabotaging with his madman act, no argument), just a simple demo repost.

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Grazza said:
he kept posting moronic nonsense


Not to take a stand for anything, but that nonsense is brilliant stream of consciousness.

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Phml said:

What's this 'vendetta' stuff all about?

His posts vanishing rather than being helled.


As I understand it, posts made by ban evaders don't go to post hell. I think it always has been that way.

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Phml said:
Obviously I would consider him a friend and I can't be very objective here, but we're not talking about his posting rights (which he's doing a good job at sabotaging with his madman act, no argument), just a simple demo repost.
One problem is that in his text-file he continued his madman act with a vengeance.

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So, say, if you could unban him, and he posts one single gibberish post (if he posts at all), he gets rebanned and we'll all shut up and move on - no more friendly discussions like this would be very likely to happen ever again. I'm sure he is more reasonable than, say, grandmaster of mousegoop and the likes.

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OK, let's try that. But the slightest bit of bullshit/trolling/persecution nonsense in a post or a text-file and he's gone for good.

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One problem is that in his text-file he continued his madman act with a vengeance.


Fair enough.

Just so there's no misunderstanding, is it alright or forbidden to post a raw demo from a banned user, assuming no text file, no funky provocative name or whatever?

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Grain of Salt said:
In that case, can I put up the link to his MAP24 demo?
That's gggmork's prerogative. If he wants to give it a normal text-file, then he can post it himself.

Phml: posting on behalf of a banned user is not OK. Posting someone else's stuff without their permission is not OK either. Banned users can of course send demos to other sites (e.g. DSDA), so it's not like there's no outlet for their demos.

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Phml: posting on behalf of a banned user is not OK. Posting someone else's stuff without their permission is not OK either.


I haven't asked either of these things. If someone who is banned from Doomworld posts a demo somewhere on the Internet, specifies "anyone can use it", can someone else repost it here? That is all I'm asking, really just a "yes" or a "no" question, no justification needed. Rules are rules.

Edit: thanks, dew. The reasoning makes sense. Not saying I agree with it necessarily, but it definitely makes sense.

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Grain of Salt said:
But seriously, I fail to see much difference between that post and typical posts from many other users here.

wow... can you ride your high horse elsewhere and be contemptuous of us unrefined thugs from there? gggmork was rather unrepentant, producing these essays when asked to reflect on his losering. that's not ee-style flaming (of which i'm very much guilty as well), that's throwing bullshit into admins' faces. can you acknowledge that difference? (i took no part in this affair, just an informed spectator here.)

phml: i assume the demo is still a content "forbidden" at doomworld, because it's a way of bringing a banned guy back to the forums in a sense. of course you can say that's already happened, because we're talking about him, to which i have no retort. :)

Morse code with running/stopping/shooting as lines, spaces and dots?

how about choosing to record a zdoom demo and starting to preach about dwf politics in the console half-way through the run? :)

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lols @ txt file

Ok, so does that mean gggmork is unbanned now? Ya hear that gggmork? You better not get banned again cuz we want you to stay. :)

btw, thx for the demo j4 and GoS

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Any chance of splitting threads? There is more than enough unnecessary junk cluttering thread already. Name it gggmork appreciation thread and put it to EE or something.

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Done.

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Grazza said:

Phml: posting on behalf of a banned user is not OK. Posting someone else's stuff without their permission is not OK either. Banned users can of course send demos to other sites (e.g. DSDA), so it's not like there's no outlet for their demos.

Can acceptable wads made by banned users (e.g. Daniel) be shown and talked about here? By linking to them in /idgames for example.

I also like it more when people get themselves unbanned (talking to administrators), not get helped by others. Seems more discreet and sincere, even if still risky (B_X guy).

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Grain of Salt said:
What distinguishes this case, as you mentioned, is the fact that gggmork was told not to, and then when he continued this was considered grounds for a ban. And that's what confuses me, because it just seems like it comes down to a moderator banning someone for not doing as they're told.
It wasn't a matter of gggmork being "told no to". He was offered a choice, informed of the likely consequences and chose to continue posting nonsense, so I'd consider the ban a self-inflicted injury.

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Hmm, banworld.com is still available...

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Does anyone have gggmork's old No Chance UV-Max attempt? Where he almost reached the end before the final cave but surprisingly died against the 4 cybers, one of the easier traps.

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Yes, I think this is it

Attachment: noc.zip
This has been downloaded 13 time(s).

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