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Well it's been a slow-starting week, apart from catching the tail-end of the weapons influx from our old friend Daniel. 25 maps (18 of those coming in at the end), none of which are particularly special but there's still fun to be had as well as laughs to be had. Anyway, I'm off on holiday now, so I'll leave you to play with this week's offerings (the last three of which are reviewed by Grazza, as they came in after I went):
  • Armas 17 by Daniel
    397kb - ZDoom/Legacy - n/a -
    The first of four weapons mods, this one has many from familiar sources (other games and wads), comes with a double fist and pistol, but no other improvements to the behaviour. On the whole, nothing to get excited about. (apart from the graphics)

  • Armas 18 by Daniel
    1460kb - ZDoom/Legacy - n/a -
    This one also has familiar sprites (including some from the mod above) but this time there's many improvements, specially designed to satisfy those with a lust for power. (go to map 08 and use the bfg in the cyber room...)

  • Armas 19 by Daniel
    533kb - ZDoom/Legacy - n/a -
    Onto the next, and this one focuses on firing rate. Most weapons fire faster and there's also a fist replacement and a cool saw blade thrower. Fun to be had again, as the last weapon is powerful...

  • Armas 29 by Daniel
    1770kb - ZDoom/Legacy - n/a -
    And this last one is a mixture of power and firing rate, as we have a minigun and the fastest rocket launcher ever, but also the usual double super shotgun and nasty bfg. Enjoy.

  • The Vixen by Daniel
    908kb - ZDoom/Legacy - n/a -
    This mod replaces the archvile with the Vixen from Redneck Rampage, also familiar to those who played Neo Doom. Nowhere near as threatening as the archvile, but is stronger and does have multiple attacks.

  • WinDoom by Bruce Lewis and Dean Wiley
    235kb - itself - n/a -
    It's what seems to be an antique source port, designed purely to make Doom run under Windows. There doesn't seem to be any changes to the engine apart from Windows compatibility. Probably of interest only to source port collectors (if such a thing exists).

  • The Supply Base 2 by MasterOfDeath
    173kb - ZDoom - SP - (img)
    OMG a map! Two maps, to be precise. A small but nice-looking techbase seemingly located in the middle of the sea. The detail is good, particularly with the lighting, and there's a great view from outdoors too (atmosphere-wise anyway). Gameplay is tougher than you think, as you'll be battling big (but narrow) monsters with small weapons and you won't be able to waste a single shot. There isn't much health around, so you'll need the secret if you get hit too much. The second map is a small gothic encounter with the big two and a few barons. Short, but good while it lasts.

  • O's of Destruction by Bjarne Christiansen
    13kb - ZDoom - DM - (img)
    Four outdoor circular rooms with no detail, each covering a different deathmatch style - namely open spaces, open spaces with some obstacles, open spaces with many obstacles and open spaces with pits. There's a ton of starts, but no things of any kind (including scenery) so it probably won't be that good. And it's in ZDoom format for some reason, too (even though the text says no port is needed).

  • Twisted Tower of Death by Patrick Gross (Captain Napalm)
    136kb - source port - SP - (img)
    A small, linear but nice-looking brick map with the TFC sky. Detail is nice, with plenty of metal patterns and pillars together with some lighting effects. There's also some fake slopes on some windows and a rare feat of engineering - a triple 3D bridge (although the top floor is fenced so you can't drop off it). Gameplay is fast, furious and not without difficulty, despite the mainly basic population. This is due to you having basic weapons only, and most battles being fought in close quarters (in fact this might annoy some of you, particularly when big traps go off in them). Like the above SP wad, short, but good while it lasts.

  • Keys of Destiny by Ben Tybursky
    104kb - doom2.exe - SP - (img)
    A map 29 replacement, quite rare in itself. The map is a mish-mash of themes (not a good sign), the detail is usually quite basic, the layout is quite cramped and the gameplay is worse than the recent cava.wad (at least there you had plenty of room to evade the monsters you can't kill without ammo). In short, not one to remember.

  • Darknation's Wacky Adventures in Impse by Mike Watson (Cyb), mostly
    1030kb - ZDoom - SP - (img)
    Heh. A two-map wad that, you guessed it, is based around imps. Lots of imps, but of different types - fast, slow, hard, powerful, colours, it's all here thanks to the new ZDoom monster stuff. The first map is a darkened techbase, the second a similarly darkened stony arena-based thingy. There's plenty of humour (mostly from captions that pop up every now and then), giving it a surreal feel. The maps themselves focus on features rather than detail, so it will look bare as most of the detail comes from the features (some of which are quite neat). Gameplay is actually quite tough, as health/ammo are limited and some of the new imps are pretty tough to beat in some battles. Overall, a light-hearted dark-looking wad that should summon a laugh or two.

  • Villa de Rais by Jay Reichard (Silent Zorah)
    9720kb - ZDoom - SP - (img) (img) (img) (img) (img)
    This 15-map wad is quite unusual - in the fact that it has the biggest spread of quality I've seen in a wad. The maps start out small and basic (almost n00bish in some ways) but grow in size and quality, and towards the end they are big and nicely detailed. Nevertheless, the early maps have some atmosphere, helped along by some nice use of coloured fog and other ZDoom stuff. The later maps can be a slog though, but they do look nicer (and the wrecked school map is pretty cool). Gameplay wise it's pretty simple - blast everything with whatever ammo you like, as there's more than plenty of it everywhere. Watch the health though, as in some maps it's a bit tight. But despite the quality at the start you'll find yourself having fun with it, especially if you choose the mod soundtrack. If you're struggling to find something worth playing this week, this could be it.

  • Lop2 by Alex Pielage
    63kb - Doom2.exe - SP - 1 map - (img)
    I enjoyed this map - not so much for its visuals as for its non-stop battles. The action takes place in and around a large arena, which is kept constantly supplied with new enemies as you accomplish various tasks (i.e. picking up keys). You are well tooled-up for the battle, and ammo is plentiful (without being excessive), but health is the main issue. At first I thought the battle was going to be an easy matter of provoking infighting, but the composition of monsters seemed quite well worked-out to make the player have to fight. Then I thought it was going to be a straightforward BFG slaughter-fest, but the ammo also proved quite well balanced - you need to use your shots wisely. In the end my health hit zero just near the exit, and my death slide took me just far enough to do the trick. So I was happy. Anyway, a fun map with lots of surprising (but fair) ambushes. (Review by Grazza.)

  • A better wad i pulled out of my ass by Michael Martin (Deathbringer)
    1,296kb - EDGE + Doom2 - SP - 1 map - (img)
    The motivation behind this map does not make it sound too promising - apparently, Deathbringer had said about Doom Rampage Edition that he could "pull a better wad out of (his) ass". And here we have the result. I didn't play DRE, so I'll just judge Deathbringer's creation on its own merits. Firstly, you play as a baron of hell (like in DRE), fighting mostly against marines. The baron effects and the enemies are all convincingly done, but these battles are rather one-sided - the marines pose little threat, while the baron's basic weapon has infinite ammo and is highly effective. The sound effects create an immersive atmosphere, and overall I feel this could well be expanded into a good episode, if the baron's weapons are better balanced against those of its enemies. Note: It didn't work for me with EDGE 1.27, but 1.28 was OK. (Review by Grazza.)

  • dinlightdemo by Dan Stefan Oprean a.k.a. Unknown[NF] or AlphaGOD
    511kb - Zdoom + Doom2 - SP - 1 map - (img)
    Although the text-file doesn't say so, this is a Zdoom wad. It is called a "demo", but it isn't clear how close to completion it is. Certainly there are a couple of missing flats, and the starting area is somewhat repetitive architecturally, and has rather bland gameplay. There are many impressive features though: the crab-like structure is an intriguing piece of eye candy, while later on we see ROTT-style aerial walkways and a rising door with spikes (using slopes) on its underside. Near the end of the map we face two armies of stealth monsters, which will no doubt delight everyone. Overall, it's a promising map, but the gameplay needs at least tweaking before a final release if it is to be truly noteworthy. (Review by Grazza.)

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deathbringer is a real asshole

EDIT: new fp

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hey, you missed this http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames/newstuff/invmaze.zip

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uhhhhh

Heh, maybe i should have tested it with 1.27 instead of assuming it would work because 1.27 wads work with 1.28

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I'm gonna start (in fact I just did it, haaa) nuking posts that just say "*th post!" because spamming is just dumb. I don't care if you feel the need to say "FP" or whatever, but at least same something, ANYTHING, having to do with the actual news item.

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Ok, here is actually something being said. :P . Anyways, glad you liked the lighting in Supply Base 2, It took up most of my time on the 2 maps (especially map01).

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Heh. More Daniel releases, of course. Does this guy ever stop? Wow.

Also, the DRE parody is pretty fun, too. Too bad it's for Edge. :P

I need to try that Darknation Impse wad or whatever. :P

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Cyb said:
I'm gonna start (in fact I just did it, haaa) nuking posts that just say "*th post!" because spamming is just dumb. I don't care if you feel the need to say "FP" or whatever, but at least same something, ANYTHING, having to do with the actual news item.


Cyb, does the inclusion of wacky in the title have anything to do with me :P

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come on I want to see what you think of invmaze.wad

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Patience! Wait til next week.

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deathbringer said:
Heh, maybe i should have tested it with 1.27 instead of assuming it would work because 1.27 wads work with 1.28


EDGE 1.28 is by far the more stable. I don't get why anybody cares if it runs with 1.27. There is simply not a good reason to use that version of the engine. I get the impression that Xaser must be running 1.27....

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uhhhhhh

Well i certianly wasnt using 1.27, and i dont know of anybody who would purposfully be without the newest version of something, except for special circumstances (like having an old version of zdoom to play DRE..for insance)

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DarkknightXC said:
I don't get why anybody cares if it runs with 1.27.
I only mentioned it because in the text-file he claimed it worked with that version. Just trying to save people a wasted download...

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insertwackynamehere said:


Cyb, does the inclusion of wacky in the title have anything to do with me :P



nothing at all, just coincidence

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Good job deathbringer, you said you could pull a better WAD out of your ass and you did. Gold star.

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Short Review of "The Supply Base 2":
Map01
Quite a nice map the area looked intresting and the lighting was really nice in some places gameplay on UV was not too hard, but I did run into ammunition troubles early on and again when I entered the crate warehouse area.
Map02
I really enjoyed this endfight and it was fun trying to get the Cyberdemon to kill all the other monsters, before I finished him off.

Overall this was a nice quick wad and it is worth playing.

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Also I would like to point out that the Link posted in the review for "Twisted Tower of Death" links to the outdated version of the wad.
This ftp://3darchives.in-span.net/pub/id...s-u/twisted.zip is the updated version. Which removes all bugs.

Ok I'm done.

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CapNapalm said:
Also I would like to point out that the Link posted in the review for "Twisted Tower of Death" links to the outdated version of the wad.
No, it's only the text on that page which is out of date. The links from that page are to the new version (indeed the first one, to the Indiana mirror, is identical to the link you cite).

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Cyb said:
I'm gonna start (in fact I just did it, haaa) nuking posts that just say "*th post!" because spamming is just dumb. I don't care if you feel the need to say "FP" or whatever, but at least same something, ANYTHING, having to do with the actual news item.


I owe you a beer cyb. Thank you.


A better wad i pulled out of my ass


Two gold stars from me, based on the title alone.

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CapNapalm said:
Short Review of "The Supply Base 2":
Map01
Quite a nice map the area looked intresting and the lighting was really nice in some places gameplay on UV was not too hard, but I did run into ammunition troubles early on and again when I entered the crate warehouse area.
Map02
I really enjoyed this endfight and it was fun trying to get the Cyberdemon to kill all the other monsters, before I finished him off.

Overall this was a nice quick wad and it is worth playing.



Thank you :D

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Grazza said:
I only mentioned it because in the text-file he claimed it worked with that version. Just trying to save people a wasted download...


Good point, well put.

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deathbringer said:
Well i certianly wasnt using 1.27, and i dont know of anybody who would purposfully be without the newest version of something, except for special circumstances (like having an old version of zdoom to play DRE..for insance)


The WAD itself isn't bad at all. Probably need a little more play-balancing and a status bar change (at least take out the marine's face) would make this quiet playable. A wishlist requirement is to have to fire action better simulate the Baron's throwing action. Nice use of the conveyor belt action and interesting that a Baron of hell can crawl through an air vent.

Here, having another gold star :).

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You see, Deathbringer, you made a level that would probably have a nice spot in the sequel to DRE.

Although, you know, it gets really boring to hear nothing from you on your website except about how much Doomworld hates DRE.

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Relica Religia said:
You see, Deathbringer, you made a level that would probably have a nice spot in the sequel to DRE.

Although, you know, it gets really boring to hear nothing from you on your website except about how much Doomworld hates DRE.



Heh, i'm not the guy who made the original DRE..thats why mine has a rather insulting name

Hmm, and on to personal reviews, except i'm not at home right now, so i can only remember one:

Darknations wacky adventures in impse
Heh, a very funny jokewad, that wasnt really designed as a jokewad, more as a feature demonstration, but ended up being funnier than mock 2 (well i think so..lolz), i havent finished it yet, probably because i fell off my chair laughing when all of those really tiny imps fell out of the ceiling. Also it was nice to see some full sprites of some of the creatures on the beastiary, such as the Stone imp and Imp serpent, a cool wad..oh and the (STRAIN inspired?) 'hyper-fast' imps even added a moment of horror amongst all the hilarity..i reckon this is my personal Wad of the week

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The Ultimate DooMer said:
WinDoom by Bruce Lewis and Dean Wiley
235kb - itself - n/a -
It's what seems to be an antique source port, designed purely to make Doom run under Windows. There doesn't seem to be any changes to the engine apart from Windows compatibility. Probably of interest only to source port collectors (if such a thing exists).



I am absolutely amazed that you have never heard of Bruce Lewis or WinDoom before. Maybe I'm just getting old.

Lewis' other effort, GLDoom, should be a lesson to all closed-source doom ports out there.

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Maybe I'm just getting old.


Heh. Graduated from Durham yet? I'm about to graduate - that makes me feel old :(

As for Villa De Rais, I have to say I thought it was pretty average.

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Heh. Graduated from Durham yet? I'm about to graduate - that makes me feel old :(



Yeah graduated at the beginning of this month - I don't have too much time to lament age though, I'm too busy worrying about employment :)

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Heh. I just realized that The review of Armas 18 links to Armas 19 and vice-versa. :P

ANyway, I just played dnwaii, and it was awesome! Heh. Funny as hell. It's *******ely worth playing. :P

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I played Supply Base 2 and wasn't really all that impressed...not sure why. Not bad, but not terribly good either. Pretty heh worthy IMHO. :(

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