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TheDarkArchon
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Maes said:


Who wouldn't? Well, I bet Wills wouldn't pick "Gamarra Soul 1" for obvious reasons.



I hate to break this to you but you're almost the only one who LIKES Gamerra WADs

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Well, the votes Giulio's maps get suggest a net community division: people either love them (5 stars) or hate them (0 stars) and there must be a 50%-50% distribution else they wouldn't all (or almost all) be rated exactly 2.5 stars :-D

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I'm sure a decent whack of the 5's are from Glassyman himself, just like the vast majority of the 0's in N.O.U.G.A.T are.

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What, you don't have faith on the voting system and its IP-based vote limiting?

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Every system has it's flaws. This one involves allowing any vote for those wads over 0 stars.
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Every system has it's flaws, in this case it's the users.
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Maes said:
What, you don't have faith on the voting system and its IP-based vote limiting?


You do realise how easily bypassed that is, right?

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TheDarkArchon said:


You do realise how easily bypassed that is, right?


Your sarcasm detector needs fixing.
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TheDarkArchon said:



I hate to break this to you but you're almost the only one who LIKES Gamerra WADs


Almost is correct, since I enjoy Giulio's wads as well. Does that mean I hate Will's maps? Of course not (even though he likes to say I do in the levels he makes). People should stop getting so offended by his levels and learn to take it as a joke.
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Almost is correct, since I enjoy Giulio's wads as well. Does that mean I hate Will's maps? Of course not (even though he likes to say I do in the levels he makes). People should stop getting so offended by his levels and learn to take it as a joke.


The problem most people have with the Gamerra WADs is that they are dull to the extreme.

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I thought it was that they were really really bad.
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TheDarkArchon said:


The problem most people have with the Gamerra WADs is that they are dull to the extreme.


Well, I guess I'm one of those rare few who actually find the new scripted Gamarra maps somewhat enjoyable. Granted, the cutscenes and dialogue is very, very dull but that aside the maps aren't that "bad." Well, I mean, they definitely aren't even close to good but since they are so short, you'll barely get to notice it. If they were even a bit longer, yeah, they'd suck. Or if you play with a dead serious attitude, yes, they'll suck then too, but it isn't the author's "fault" if someone doesn't like not-so-serious maps, now is it?
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Another map by Andy Badorek!? WOW! :-D


yes, I was quite surprised to see a compet-n dinosaur release a map.

Andy did quite a bit of pacifist for doom and doom2.
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Well, I guess I'm one of those rare few who actually find the new scripted Gamarra maps somewhat enjoyable. Granted, the cutscenes and dialogue is very, very dull but that aside the maps aren't that "bad." Well, I mean, they definitely aren't even close to good but since they are so short, you'll barely get to notice it. If they were even a bit longer, yeah, they'd suck. Or if you play with a dead serious attitude, yes, they'll suck then too, but it isn't the author's "fault" if someone doesn't like not-so-serious maps, now is it?


So the only reason you like them is because they are so short that the crappyness doesn't have time to affect you?
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I seriously don't get how anyone can find those Gamarra Soul wads to be any fun. They're so bland and boring.
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kristus said:


So the only reason you like them is because they are so short that the crappyness doesn't have time to affect you?


Partially, the same could be applied to a whole ton of joke wads as well.
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So you neither got quality nor quantity.. that's amazing. Just because it works in math, two negatives doesn't necessarily make a positive.
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kristus said:
So you neither got quality nor quantity.. that's amazing. Just because it works in math, two negatives doesn't necessarily make a positive.


I said:
Or if you play with a dead serious attitude, yes, they'll suck then too, but it isn't the author's "fault" if someone doesn't like not-so-serious maps, now is it?


Not all maps please everyone, and they aren't meant to, either. Thus, I rest my case.
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No matter what "attitude" I play the wad with, I always sleep during those cutscenes.

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i want a joke wad made by a generation x'er not this shitty unfunny 4chan newbie shit
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The only "seriously" made jokewad I've seen since I know that jokewads exist, is still cybie and especially cybie2: that map actually has good gameplay, good graphics, and obviously some effort went into making it worthwhile playing (a careful player will discover a lot of details that may escape the "wtf is this?! This gets 0 stars!" kind of player.

Most other jokewads try to be funny by throwing in a few broken/bad/crazy maps with some corny scripting, and that has been beaten to death, granted.

Gamarra's Soul series is somewhere between the two, because at least there's an attempt at creating a continuity and a consistency between episodes and characters.

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I guess you're not aware of the dwforums series, then. Go play those for some guaranteed good times.

Also CIF3 whenever it comes out. You hear me Kaiser! *shakes fist*
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Mockery2, Dotims, CIF, doit, dwfourms1-3, impencse, Turbocharged arcade. Those are just a few off the top of my head, all better than the gammera series.
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Well I kinda feel alone being the only guy using (G)Zdoom for any WAD unless it requires a more specific port such as Legacy or Edge.
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I usually use zdoom to 'just play' wads, it used to be legacy until it started crashing even on legacy-specific wads, or if you look at it funny. Though lately i have been downloding simple, easy wads with lots of small enemies and playing them 'through' my unfinished Legacy TC called Insanity Please, because it has loads of blood and gruesome screams, so is more violent. Houses.wad from 304 worked really well with it
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I've been waiting for Genesis of Decent for a while, and although I haven't finished it yet, I'm finding it really dissapointing. The layout and architecture are both quite impressive, but the amount of cross-level switch-hunting isn't. The gameplay is, I guess intentionally, pretty slow with really tight ammo/health placement, which I think could do with some serious tweaking in certain places. It's not fun to be in a pitch black room with 11 health and only a handfull of ammo against a bunch of caco's, barons, imps and what not.

I think Monolith 6, on the other hand, is a great and well thought out map. The layout is excellent, as is the interconnectivity, and it's also very challenging, though I'd probably not use quite so many archviles. I'll have to check out the other maps in the series.

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Naan said:
Well I kinda feel alone being the only guy using (G)Zdoom for any WAD unless it requires a more specific port such as Legacy or Edge.


Not really, on my b0x there's "ZDoom fascism" too: just about everything is supposed to work on ZDoom (or GZDoom if I feel that the 7600GT must somehow pay its money back).

Having to use anything else for SERIOUS play...is almost always a losing proposition, for me.If anything, because ZDoom at least *feels* like it has the best and most responsive controls out there.

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Monlth06.wad is wad of the week in my book. Finished it on the second try, with something like 100/100, all weapons and lots of ammo. Great interconnectivity, great design and the secrets were fun to look for, although I think giving the BFG and a megasphere ruined the balance in the level (didn't even use the BFG, though). The backpack was the only secret I couldn't figure out. Great level, even if it wasn't quite as difficult as most other levels associated with Mr. Wiles.
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Maes said:
Not really, on my b0x there's "ZDoom fascism" too: just about everything is supposed to work on ZDoom (or GZDoom if I feel that the 7600GT must somehow pay its money back).
It's a real shame that even ZDoom WADs don't work in ZDoom properly: Mock 2 is an example I know of from the top of my head that is broken in 2.1.6+ at several places.
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such is the nature of ever-changing code. i mean, hell, even an official update of vanilla doom ended up breaking uac_dead.

another good example is cold as hell. i tried it in gzdoom, which of course runs off 2.1-era versions of zdoom, and the reload script was utterly fucking broken and the game was unplayable. in fact, i think the only version that works 100% properly with it is 2.0.63a.
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