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DooMAD said:
Meh, guess I'm not using it then. Seems a little odd that I can run Doom, all the Windows source ports and all the other editing utilities out there on my computer and yet can't run DB2 on Win2k. Then again, the original DB still works fine so it's no major loss.

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TheeXile said:

Because it contains secret spyware that he doesn't want you to discover!

:tinfoilhat:

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TheeXile said:

Because it contains secret spyware that he doesn't want you to discover!

:tinfoilhat:

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CodeImp said:
(...) please learn from your previous mistakes.

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Sure you may not like Windows and you may want to stick to 1994 programs that don't use more resources than Doom does, but that is your choice and it doesn't change the world (which is at 2009 right now FYI).

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Also, refrain from trolling or flaming and try making a single post.

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Optionally, to improve your social interactions you may want to learn what sarcasm is.

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Now serious answers for serious people;

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DoomGater said:
I really love my Windows 2000 nearly as much als my Linux.
But I really think it's funny, that an editor can't be run on a decent machine, that is good for everything else using an OS that's still officially supportet by Microsoft.

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esselfortium said:
DoomGater, I implore you to stop posting

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DoomGater said:
Sorry, but generally I prefer to explore rather than to implore.

suum cuique.

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DuckReconMajor said:
Tell us what you find in Losers.

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DoomGater said:


Sorry, but generally I prefer to explore rather than to implore.

suum cuique.

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GreyGhost said:
Get to know your Microsoft OS support models.

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DoomGater said:


Windows 2000 will be supported officialy until JULY 2010.
(please go clicky here)

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Gez said:
If Microsoft is supporting this OS, why don't they make .NET updates for it?[/B]

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exl said:

Windows 2000 is in extended support.

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DoomGater said:
Right. This means it still IS supported.

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kristus said:
I dunno why. But whenever I open DB2 and intend to start working on a map for my Heretic wad. I feel inhibited. :s

Oh well. I guess it's just the unfamiliarity of the visual design.

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TheeXile said:

I almost felt the same way, but the Make sector, geometry splitting, and 3d mode editing outweighs that for what I'm doing.

Only thing I don't like is the change in behavior of the Paste function from the way DB1 did it. I can press the 'e' button easily enough, you know. :P

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CodeImp said:

2) Paste puts the geometry at your mouse cursor and it moves along (like dragging) until you click (where it will merge with any overlapping geometry). The point used for alignment is a problem with this method though. Because the geometry starts centered at the mouse cursor, there is no way to indicate with which vertex you want to align to existing geometry. So the way it aligns to the grid and other geometry may not be what you would want.

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TheeXile said:

Add a shortcut or something to use the offset from the mouse's closest grid snapped position to be the selected objects as the "center" when being pasted?

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Gez said:
Maybe mark the pivot point before copying or cutting?

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CodeImp said:

I will make the paste behavior optional in the next version. I'm not sure yet what the possibilities are, but these are what I'm thinking of;

1) Paste pastes directly where the mouse cursor is at, without merging anything. Pasted geometry stays selected so you can easily right-click and drag it manually and dropping it would merge with overlapping geometry (standard-drag-something behavior).

2) Paste puts the geometry at your mouse cursor and it moves along (like dragging) until you click (where it will merge with any overlapping geometry). The point used for alignment is a problem with this method though. Because the geometry starts centered at the mouse cursor, there is no way for the user to indicate which vertex you want to use to align with existing geometry. So the way it aligns to the grid and other geometry may not be what you would want.

3) Paste pastes and goes into Edit Selection mode (the way it works now)

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Ryathaen said:
While I'm here, is there any way to emulate the DB1 behavior when editing a sidedef in 3D mode? What I mean is that it immediately brought up a list of textures so it was basically a two-click operation to select a texture.

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Ryathaen said:is there any way to emulate the DB1 behavior when editing a sidedef in 3D mode? What I mean is that it immediately brought up a list of textures so it was basically a two-click operation to select a texture. [/B]

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