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Megamur
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Consider testing all your vanilla PWADs with either doom.exe or Chocolate Doom.


PLEASE. Why can't people get this through their thick skulls?

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Megamur said:


PLEASE. Why can't people get this through their thick skulls?



Bitch, moan, bitch, moan.

Because new mappers are... I don't know... new to this sort of thing? I get your frustration, I really do. Many a time I've pulled a map up in the intended source port to find an error. However, this is where the the whole "constructive criticism" thing comes in handy. Labeling any said person as thick-skulled, while making you feel superior, really just makes you look sort of dickish. It's not like there was some sort of map-breaker going on here. That actually would have merited your snobbish response.

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fullmetalvaran33 said:
I don't see why the fact a Doomworld member is female is being so overly-discussed. Time to move on.


I don't know either. Youd think that someone would admit to themselves that they made an incorrect assumption but instead proceeded to defend themselves with the phenemona of the internet. Jesus Christ.

I guess it doesn't really help that im posting.

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Marnetmar
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The only reason I read /newstuff threads is the entetainment of seeing everybody bitch, moan and act like children to one another.

Somebody has a reviewing 'style' you don't like->Initiate shitstorm
Somebody has a gives constructive criticism->Initiate shitstorm
A doomworld member is female->Initiate shitstorm.

Jesus fucking Christ.

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DuckReconMajor said:
I was upset because, no matter how gender neutral people claim to be, saying that right in the middle of an argument sort of throws a wrench into the whole thing.
To you, and to strangers it isn't evident unless perhaps they read the EE thread where you explained your fear or aversion of women and somehow still have it in mind.

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Good to see that the vitriol of newstuff comments is alive and well

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Marnetmar said:
Initiate shitstorm
What /newstuff needs is a gift shop with it's own exclusive line of merchandise. ;-)

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Marnetmar said:
The only reason I read /newstuff threads is the entetainment of seeing everybody bitch, moan and act like children to one another.

Somebody has a reviewing 'style' you don't like->Initiate shitstorm
Somebody has a gives constructive criticism->Initiate shitstorm
A doomworld member is female->Initiate shitstorm.

Jesus fucking Christ.



All of this.

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what is this immature crap? the correct way to treat a lady on the internets is to break into an endless stream of boob jokes.

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Boob jokes, the only real way to keep abreast of this situation.

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Gents, I think our female friend might not appreciate sexual references, let's show her that at least some men in the world do not go around sexually harassing people.

In other news I wrote a fething review about Zero Day and never submitted it, and I was a lot less generous than the person who actually covered it. Basically I hated everything about it and couldn't believe how crap it was. I submit my review here NOT to invalidate the other review, just because I spent over an hour playing through and writing it so you can all fething well read it.

ZERO DAY (mp3 edition)

Oh dear Emperor on his Golden Throne. I was going to help the mapper's writing career by telling everyone about his upcoming novel, Zero Day, which has provided inspiration for this wad. I was going to wish him well; I was also going to ask him to change the main character's name from JEREMY GOVERNMENT to something that will not get his manuscript chucked straight in the bin by an editor with no appreciation of crap names.

Then I fired the mapset up. At first I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I think it's been about 10 years since I saw maps like these, and they were 1994 wads. In fact I don't think I've EVER seen maps like these. They're... I mean they're... Jesus Christ, just look at the screenshots.

Every map is broadly the same. There are some narrow bits and many, many open areas. Now I appreciate overscaled maps, I really like them in fact, but I have rarely seen one done well. I just like the sense of weird, nostalgic awe they evoke. In that respect this wad is a winner. In every other respect... just look at the screenshots. Oh feth, I've wet myself.

I got a few minutes into map one before I couldn't stand it any more. The architecture is appalling, the weapon placement sucks my arse cheeks – and the less said about monster deployment the better. Suffice it to know that I have never seen such inept monster placement since playing that shite Fiffy wad last week. Again, that was from 1994 or something, I'm not sure because all I remember was printing Fiffy out and flushing him down the toilet straight after playing his maps.

AND EVERY MAP IN ZERO DAY IS EXACTLY THE FETHING SAME.

It's unplayable and has no redeeming features AT ALL. I cannot believe anyone would play this lot through and enjoy it. I couldn't bear more than a few minutes of it, yet I soldiered on to be accurate with my complaining.

All I can say in summary is, I hope you're better at writing novels than you are at building Doom wads mate.

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Marnetmar said:
The only reason I read /newstuff threads is the entetainment of seeing everybody bitch, moan and act like children to one another.

Somebody has a reviewing 'style' you don't like->Initiate shitstorm
Somebody has a gives constructive criticism->Initiate shitstorm
A doomworld member is female->Initiate shitstorm.

Jesus fucking Christ.



Could be just me, but you're saying you're entertained and then proceed to sound like you're literally punching your keyboard, red with rage, as you type this.

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Phml said:


Could be just me, but you're saying you're entertained and then proceed to sound like you're literally punching your keyboard, red with rage, as you type this.

People are complex.

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Phml said:


Could be just me, but you're saying you're entertained and then proceed to sound like you're literally punching your keyboard, red with rage, as you type this.



Marnetmar is the ultimate paradox. On the one hand, he seems not to give a crap. But on the other hand, Marnetmar is very intollerant and easily angered for little or no reason.

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The reviews were interesting. I don't mean the wad reviews...not that the wad reviews weren't interesting (or even the reviews of the reviews). It was ALL very interesting.

But I'm talking about ... ummm ... the reviews!

oh feth it :(

shit, now i'm a "n'wah" (whatever that means)

Can I have my T-shirt now?

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The Edge magazine reviews featured in this newstuff are pretty interesting, it's interesting to see what the people were saying about doom, even if it is sometimes inaccurate, back in its original era.

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Stop fucking saying "feth" all the fucking time and go back to saying "fuck", because "feth" is fucking annoying and I'm fucking irritated. :P

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myk said:
To you, and to strangers it isn't evident unless perhaps they read the EE thread where you explained your fear or aversion of women and somehow still have it in mind.
Are you talking about this?

If so, I'm honestly surprised and have lost some respect for you. I've read through my responses again and can't find anything I said to suggest I have a fear or aversion to women.

On the other hand I'd think it would be more sexist to say what you've just said. If explaining my choice to not be in a relationship is the same as saying I have a fear or aversion of women, this would require an assumption that men can only interact with women in a romantic/sexual way. Did I ever say I avoided women? Or am I a misogynist because I'm not inclined to date every one I meet?

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Phml said:


Could be just me, but you're saying you're entertained and then proceed to sound like you're literally punching your keyboard, red with rage, as you type this.



http://www.operatorchan.org/k/arch/src/k205442_i%20aint%20even%20mad%203.jpg

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InsanityBringer said:
The Edge magazine reviews featured in this newstuff are pretty interesting, it's interesting to see what the people were saying about doom, even if it is sometimes inaccurate, back in its original era.


Yeah, I just gave them a proper read. There are some ridiculous moments, but it's also a product of its era. The 1993 article on /idgames that previews Doom proved to be far more entertaining, though a bit over-the-top. Worth taking a look at.

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I don't remember seeing any green lizards in Doom. Maybe their monitor was going bad. :D

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The reviewer possibly observed a deathmatch game in progress without realizing the "green lizards" are players.

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Or he didn't actually play much of the game and got some of the monsters confused.

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Confused with zoo animals?

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I had the impression that the E4M3 lost souls from afar were seagulls.

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esselfortium said:
Confused with zoo animals?


I meant that he thought of something from another game by mistake and/or just made it up.

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hex11 said:
I don't remember seeing any green lizards in Doom. Maybe their monitor was going bad. :D

Of course there are green lizards in Doom. They blend in with the green berserk packs. I really like the giant purple people eaters with white stripes, they were a good design for a monster. Pity you can't interact with the spider demons from hell though, I think Doom would have made a much better shoot-em-up if they'd turned it into an RPG. Nothing stops productivity in offices across the world than a shoot-em-up RPG where you make friends with demons from Hell who are trying to wipe out mankind.

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