Doomworld Forums - Layoffs at id

Doomworld Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.2.5

Doomworld Forums > Misc. > Doomworld News > Layoffs at id

Pages (2): [1] 2 »

Author

All times are GMT. The time now is 12:39.

Trasher][
The game is not well!

Posts: 1303
Registered: 08-02

Zenimax have confirmed that there have been a unspecified number of layoffs at id following the completion of Rage. A mouthpiece at the publisher added that ongoing development of Doom 4 and other titles has not been affected, and that id are still actively recruiting and hiring.

01-11-12 08:38 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

40oz
And who knows, maybe I'm wrong. But that's extremely unlikely because I'm always right.

Posts: 5065
Registered: 08-07

Probably all the people who think elaborate maze-like exploratory level design is cool

01-11-12 15:46 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Kaiser
Doom64 Guru

Posts: 2672
Registered: 08-00

Yeah, actively hiring for Rage 2 to make up their loss.

01-11-12 16:18 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

geo
Senior Member

Posts: 1381
Registered: 10-05

Eh layoffs after a game release is normal. Like if you have someone worked for Rage 1 that they can just use for Rage 2... just release that worker. Or they'll rehire the guys when Rage 2 starts... or just go with guys fresh out of college. I'm a lil surprised they waited this long to release them.

01-11-12 18:23 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Csonicgo
This post is probably useless

Posts: 3960
Registered: 03-04

40oz said:
Probably all the people who think elaborate maze-like exploratory level design is cool

It has been for thousands of years. Where have YOU been?

01-11-12 22:24 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Marnetmar
Forum Staple

Posts: 2025
Registered: 09-10

Hopefully id has learned a lesson or two.

01-11-12 23:50 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

geo
Senior Member

Posts: 1381
Registered: 10-05

Don't take risks on a new IP in order to work out the bugs in your monumental IP so that monumental IP has a better chance of getting an A+?

01-12-12 00:57 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Xaser
Senior Member

Posts: 1630
Registered: 07-03

If said lesson transmorphs into "Don't risk making new IP" then part of me is going to die inside. Repeatedly. Again.

01-12-12 01:25 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

fraggle
Super Moderator

Posts: 5999
Registered: 07-00

Looking forward to Doom 5 and Quake 5 then! Plus the inevitable return - once again - to Castle Wolfenstein.

01-12-12 01:50 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

AlexMax
Forum Regular

Posts: 999
Registered: 01-03

Aren't people laid off at the end of most game projects?

01-12-12 04:38 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Quasar
Moderator

Posts: 4615
Registered: 08-00

Thanks for makin' our game - NOW GTFO.

01-12-12 05:22 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

printz
CRAZY DUMB ZEALOT

Posts: 6845
Registered: 06-06

fraggle said:
Looking forward to Doom 5 and Quake 5 then! Plus the inevitable return - once again - to Castle Wolfenstein.

To be fair, there's a chance each time that a good game pops out if they keep pumping.

01-12-12 08:19 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

geo
Senior Member

Posts: 1381
Registered: 10-05

Yep most people are laid off at the end of a project. Its pretty normal.

01-12-12 15:35 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

yukib1t
Will DDR for food

Posts: 2160
Registered: 06-02

printz said:
To be fair, there's a chance each time that a good game pops out if they keep pumping.

Isn't that sort of like using an infinite number of monkeys to reproduce Shakespeare?

Or my personal favorite take on it, and infinite number of rednecks riding in an infinite number of trucks shooting shotguns at an infinite number of signs will reproduce Shakespeare in braille.

01-12-12 18:47 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Enjay
ASK ME ABOUT FOOTBALL / STEAM / DEAD CELEBRITIES / THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT

Posts: 5595
Registered: 12-00

geo said:
Yep most people are laid off at the end of a project. Its pretty normal.

And, of course, not just in the games industry. Any industry that has the highs and lows of big projects also has cycles of hiring and redundancy.

01-12-12 23:59 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

DuckReconMajor
Forum Spammer

Posts: 3847
Registered: 01-09

I've heard that big studios in other industries like Pixar will be working on one project then when that project leaves a certain phase the people working on it will work on that certain phase on the next project. Since the games industry hasn't really worked out any systems like this yet there are problems such as the mass layoffs and lack of pre-production.

01-13-12 01:36 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

40oz
And who knows, maybe I'm wrong. But that's extremely unlikely because I'm always right.

Posts: 5065
Registered: 08-07

Like an assembly line type thing except for media production? That's pretty cool.

01-13-12 04:35 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

GreyGhost
a ghost... only grey

Posts: 5702
Registered: 01-08

Yep, the video game industry could learn a lot from Henry Ford.

01-13-12 06:21 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

printz
CRAZY DUMB ZEALOT

Posts: 6845
Registered: 06-06

40oz said:
Like an assembly line type thing except for media production? That's pretty cool.

Cool eh? Creativity is NOT helped by this kind of pacing.

01-13-12 10:36 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Mr. Chris
The term is "prehensile"

Posts: 3663
Registered: 07-02

Kaiser said:
Yeah, actively hiring for Rage 2 to make up their loss.

Maybe they should FIX the existing texture issues on the PC port of RAGE before moving onto the sequel?

__________________
Chris's uploads - Link
Doom videos 1 - 2
BrutalDoom mod download

01-13-12 17:20 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Xaser
Senior Member

Posts: 1630
Registered: 07-03

printz said:
Cool eh? Creativity is NOT helped by this kind of pacing.

Are you suggesting that layoffs are better for creativity, then? :P

01-13-12 17:53 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

printz
CRAZY DUMB ZEALOT

Posts: 6845
Registered: 06-06

Xaser said:

Are you suggesting that layoffs are better for creativity, then? :P

I'm suggesting that a pipeline game-making system might be the reasons games are so similar between each other and so not special. Because really, it shows.

01-13-12 19:57 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

DuckReconMajor
Forum Spammer

Posts: 3847
Registered: 01-09

Yeah, because working at once certain part of a project certainly doesn't help him become better at it. He's better off working at parts he both is and isn't good at, and get laid off at the end for good measure.

01-13-12 20:18 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Hirogen2
Member

Posts: 439
Registered: 01-02

Enjay said: And, of course, not just in the games industry. Any industry that has the highs and lows of big projects also has cycles of hiring and redundancy.

Game industry's pork cycle, innit.

01-14-12 05:09 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

geo
Senior Member

Posts: 1381
Registered: 10-05

Some animation studios used to lay people off when an animated movie came out, but now they usually do 4 movies at once. Writers write, storyboarders storyboard, modelers model, motion captures capture, animators animate. Then they just keep the movies coming off an assembly line.

So if ID works on 1 game at a time for 6 years... there's no reason to keep people on who have finished what they're doing.

01-16-12 16:06 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

DuckReconMajor
Forum Spammer

Posts: 3847
Registered: 01-09

dammit geo

01-16-12 16:11 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

geo
Senior Member

Posts: 1381
Registered: 10-05

Sorry I did bad right :-(

01-16-12 16:19 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Creaphis
I will deliberately take a contrary position just for the sake of writing incredibly long arguments

Posts: 3991
Registered: 10-05

The creativity of Pixar movies (or at least the originals of each franchise) shows that it is possible to be creative under an assembly-line system. Besides, whether a game or a movie is creative depends far more on the creative leads of the company than on the guy who's been rigging models for animation for forty-eight months straight.

01-16-12 17:15 #

Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy

IP || Edit/Delete || Quote

Xtife
Member

Posts: 390
Registered: 04-05

Is it bad that I laughed at this? I love how fast ID turned into one of the many crappy cookie cutter developers. I wish they would 3drealms and die already.

01-17-12 03:22 #