a little bit edited since I'm answering too late and didn't realize it... sry
I was away, and will stay like that some time, I just have some RL things atm. but do not worry I'll be back on track soon. I might sound rude with my reply, but his thread has become something like s**t but wrapped up. I don't have anything against anybody, to be clear, just that this is the wrong direction.
One question for fx: Did AdamH actually give this venture his blessing? I think that is significant, as it affects how "official" the new site should be seen as. [/B]
Unfortunately, I was unable to contact him as I already stated. I might do this and that with C-N, but I also promised to BahdKo that I will not alter C-N rules, and that's how I got my hands on C-N source. If I break that promise, than I'm a terrible person. That's where it all ends about C-N and I'm pretty fine with that.
I do not plan to search for Adam or ask for his permission because it would be ridiculous. It's been like 7 years, and if he didn't respond with a single C-N post/email to somebody/forum post than I think he's done with Doom/C-N forever and I do not plan to bug him if that's his final decision.
I'll clarify some things, since I see some people are pursuing their own happiness and are unwilling to visit C-N forum where they can find their answers and ask questions directly.
For the love of God, there will be no prboom+ category, EVER. You are free to launch your own site with prboom+ competition if you want to, but as Archy stated like zillion times there is dsda.
If you want I can give out website for prboom+ demos, just buy a domain and I'll set it up for 0$.
I "might" for instance in some distant future add special column or something that will say that faster prboom+ demo exists, nomonster demo or some neat feature like that. That's just an idea, it "might" happen but it might not.
Second, we'd love to talk about accepting choco port in NEW database, but first things first. We do not have a "good" choco client yet, and C-N will not use choco, but choco fork so we can add things we need for competition only to it (read: developers/ideas needed, let's say we have one for now). I was briefly discussing about that idea with some C-N players in official C-N IRC channel #nightmare (Quakenet) and with some in live and they all agree choco fork is the best/cleanest solution. But they all agree choco can't replicate "quickstart" (adjust mouse and keys before doom starts). So it's kinda pointless to talk about this and that and what should be and it's dead before it started and not dead.
Old C-N works the way it was working before, doom2.exe (dosbox accepted) and that's it. Everything else (choko fork) will have to wait database conversion to MySQL/PHP (help needed with coding php+mysql) and choco fork that fits our needs. PLEASE no more pointless discussions about DOSBox vs. ports or whatever. Open new thread and flame there.
For old C-N cheating is possible in every way, and it's kinda easy. Yeah, I've said it. If you really want you can modify doom2.exe, alter dosbox, use custom tools and whatever you want to cheat and that's already seen and rules are "broken" and we can't do "almost" anything about it. We could stop accepting demos and cry and say zed's dead baby, but we won't because there are people who are happy with new site/forum, old rules and reviving it. I'm doing my best to prevent any but as stated there are ways to do it and it's making me sad but will not stop me from doing what I started.
There are lots of people interested in playing C-N with choko fork, so I'd like to hear more about anti-cheating ideas, client features proposals then arguing who's "demo" is shorter or not. :)
Last edited by fx02 on 07-28-12 at 20:15