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The Merovingian said:
http://www.doomworld.com/julian/rorEternity.png

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Mordeth said:
[Edit] There are soooo many instances I've been thinking up some really cool architecture, only to realise a few seconds later that, despite all the tricks in my book, it still isn't possible. But this new RoR effect seems to be HOM-free, right? As in, no problems with suspended floor/ceiling even during transition?

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Mordeth said:
[Edit 2] Of course, one thing to test is monster behaviour inside a RoR sector. It's one thing to make the floor/ceiling blocking shots, quite another to prevent a monster from (futile) attacking a player above/below him.

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Mordeth said:
[Edit 3] Give me one finger and I'll.... How about deep-water in combination with RoR?

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The Merovingian said:
Hey Joel, I love your sig actually.

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Mordeth said:
BTW, I tried sending James a bug report but his listed email bounced. So, here goes: in the current beta2 terraintypes have stopped working for deep-water sectors. This used to work in the previous beta. But, normal sectors with terraintype flats still work.

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Quasar said:
If it only took 8 lines of code to get *that* far, you have my complete and full blessing to develop this as far as you wish with the intentions of it being included in Eternity ^_^

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The Merovingian said:
Talking about that, I have stricly no clue how to handle the automap properly. Any idea is welcome as long as it's doable.

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Quasar said:
They would trigger when you hit the REAL floor, which for very shallow deep water, works fine enough. But try it in something like BOOMEDIT.WAD and you find out fast that it looks pretty ridiculous.

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I should also note that there is theorically no limit to the number of floors on top of one another.

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BBG said:
Actually, I think you should look at the Duke 3d source and see how they handled fake RoR

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Mordeth said:


Huh? I've tried this with beta1 in my levels, in a combination of shallow deep-water (heh) and in really deep-water sectors and it worked very well. Eg. jumping into a very deep pool would cause the splash sound when touching the surface and a splash would form on the surface even when the player is sinking (er, falling... someone ought to fix that) to the bottom.

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BBG said:
Actually, I think you should look at the Duke 3d source and see how they handled fake RoR

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Quasar said:

As for projectiles, normal projectiles NEVER cause TerrainType hits, I've explained this more than once. Rockets cause hits because *blast radii* cause TerrainType hits, not because the rocket missile hit the floor. Shoot a rocket on a wall over water 128 units or less from the floor and you will still see a splash -- its from the explosion. Bouncing projectiles also cause TerrainType hits when they touch the ground. This is because they bounce, rather than exploding, so the splash looks much more appropriate. It does not look very good, IMO, for an exploding projectile to cause a splash.

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BBG said:
Actually, I think you should look at the Duke 3d source and see how they handled fake RoR

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Cyb said:
why not give the level editor the option to flag something if they want it to makes a splash or not via dehacked or somesuch, because personally I think projectiles hitting the water and splashing makes more sense than them not splashing, but that's just me

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