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Maes
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Creaphis said:
I've always had to do that to a minor extent. I thought that was standard.


In Doom? And with a hitscan weapon at close quarters? Only ridicolously high lag can account for that, surely not simulated and consistent physics.

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Well, when playing Doom online with a ping of 100, I've found that I need to shoot where the player will be in a tenth of a second instead of where he currently is. Considering that this is a very fast-paced game, without any lag correction (in most ports? in all ports?) there is a noticeable difference between proper aiming technique when killing people online and when killing bots on my own machine. This isn't a problem in my mind, though, it just takes some minor adjustment.

Am I doing it wrong?

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Kyka said:
to save money on those gosh darned monthly connection plans i just decided one time to downloady the entire internets onto my hard drive so now its all right there i don't need to worry my pretty little head about adsl and cable and connection speeds and all those things its just so much more convenient right there on my HD i can surf for free forever.

take that big phone companies ;)

I tried that back in the bad old dialup days but had to stop when I ran out of floppies.

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Comcast, though I don't pay it myself so it's not too bad. Generally the connection quality has actually been fairly good, with few downtimes. Not to mention there's no download cap, so I've actually gone to 90GB in a month and no issues.

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No one has 2k/s Dial-up?

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Creaphis said:
Am I doing it wrong?


No, if it works for you. What I was trying to say is that there's a difference between a FPS where there are actual modeled bullet physics that force you to lead/elevate your aim depending on speed/distance of the target (e.g. Counterstrike, Battlefield series) and one which is supposed to be purely hitscan (Doom, Quake series, Wolf 3D, perhaps others (?)), where the "leading" is purely due to a comms artifact.

In the former you have to lead because you have to due to the physics themselves, by a predictable and computable amount (which also holds for single player). In the latter there's an entirely random and unpredictable factor, which is also subject to glitching/abuse, unless there's some timebase correction/synchronous network code to even out latency differences.


Lord_Z said:
No one has 2k/s Dial-up?


I once tried fucking around with modem init strings to force a lower connection speed...and surprise surprise, most providers' equipment won't connect below 28.8 kbps. So you can forget that acoustic coupler and/or 2kbps C64 modem you've been saving for dire times :-(

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Optimum Online at home, which is the best ISP I've used. Up at school, I had Charter, which is by far the worst ISP I've ever had to deal with. Now I'm moving to Boston, where only Comcast is available.

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One of my co-workers indicated that there is a way to modify the cable line into my apartment so that I dont have to pay Comcast for service. Or at least get cable for free without the cable company knowing. Something about finding the node. Does anyone know if this is possible?

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This Wiki article might point you in the right direction. BTW - it's don't or do not.

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One of my co-workers indicated that there is a way to get a few million dollars or a load of gold from the bank so that I don't have to work for a living. Or at least get $100,000 or something from there without the authorities knowing. Something about opening the vault. Does anyone know if this is possible?

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myk said:
One of my co-workers indicated that there is a way to get a few million dollars or a load of gold from the bank so that I don't have to work for a living. Or at least get $100,000 or something from there without the authorities knowing. Something about opening the vault. Does anyone know if this is possible?


You need a helmet, eye protection and a permission slip

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myk said:
One of my co-workers indicated that there is a way to get a few million dollars or a load of gold from the bank so that I don't have to work for a living. Or at least get $100,000 or something from there without the authorities knowing. Something about opening the vault. Does anyone know if this is possible?


Touche.










Snap.

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Fisk said:


You need a helmet, eye protection and a permission slip


No! It's "You need a helmet eye protection and a permission slip."

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Satellite. >_<

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5 MB DSL

I still remember the old days on Dial up :) :|

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Verizon FiOS. It's the only alternative to Comcast in my area, as far as I'm aware of.

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Seems like I'm the only one who has Dial-up. *sigh* Makes me so sad...


Maes said...
So you can forget that acoustic coupler and/or 2kbps C64 modem you've been saving for dire times :-(

There is still lots of future for those times to happen so you never know :)

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I still have a 1200/75 Viatel modem for my C64 - just in case the internet dies.

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Bashe said:

No! It's "You need a helmet eye protection and a permission slip."


GreyGhost will say:
No! It's "You need a scalpel, rubber gloves and malpractice insurance." - or am I thinking of another thread?


You are both suspended.

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No! It's "You need a scalpel, rubber gloves and malpractice insurance." - or am I thinking of another thread?

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