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kristus
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I switched away from IE at least a decade ago. I never looked back. Only use it on occasion when I need to check my hotmail, because some people insist on mailing me there instead at my Gmail. (I only got it so I could chat with my friends on MSN.)

06-28-09 13:12 #

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Enjay
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DooMAD said:
Can't you just use an older version of IE? Hell, I've still got 5.5 on this comp (not that it's ever used). I know a few people who keep older versions for web design compatibility testing and such.

Meh! I "upgraded" to ie8 using Windows update and the thing is so integrated with the OS (Vista - another great success) that it just seemed easier to go for something independent.

06-28-09 13:28 #

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Krispavera
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IE8 is great, it downloaded Firefox pretty fast on my new comp!

06-28-09 14:17 #

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myk
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deathbringer said:
All's i know is the IE6 i'm still using opens instantly, whereas firefox slows the systen slightly and makes the fan speed audiably increase, and then opens.

I used to use IE 6 because it was faster to open, but between it freezing sometimes and not loading some pages very well, waiting a bit more for Firefox 2 to open is worthwhile (even without considering other advantages). Once it's open, it's not noticeably slower and maybe even faster in some senses.

kristus said:
Only use it on occasion when I need to check my hotmail, because some people insist on mailing me there instead at my Gmail. (I only got it so I could chat with my friends on MSN.)

My MSN account is my Gmail address used through an independent chatting app.

06-28-09 14:56 #

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Maes
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The only advantage I'd recognize to IE (at least for old versions <=6) is that if you're low on resources for whatever reason, its impact/overhead is really minimal compared to pretty much anything else (this is also due to the fact that it's so integrated with the OS, an unfair advantage maybe but an advantage nonetheless).

I doubt this still holds true for 7 or 8. I do know however that I can surf on a Pentium MMX@200 MHz, with 64 MB of RAM and windows XP without breaking a sweat and starting reasonably fast (multiple windows, too) while still having a full-fledged browswer with javascript/flash etc. I wouldn't even think of starting Mozilla/Opera/Chrome on that rig.

06-28-09 15:10 #

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Csonicgo
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Back in the early part of this decade mozilla and opera were pretty *good* on those low specs. I am not sure now, but I hacked my own builds of FireFox to work on Win95 as recently as 2004.

ducon said:
IE8 can�t read XHTML+MathML, but Firefox and Galeon can.

Well No, I don't expect it to, it's barely used and only recently supported by Gecko.

deathbringer said:
All's i know is the IE6 i'm still using opens instantly, whereas firefox slows the systen slightly and makes the fan speed audiably increase, and then opens.

FF loading wouldn't even slow down my 200 MHz. Of course it took a while to load, but nothing ever slowed down to the point of the computer being unusable.

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Khorus
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Never liked IE. Was forced to use it during all of school, including tertiary (unless we were in the servers lab where we were installing OS's and such. Then we had the power to install any browser we wanted, muahaha). I used Firefox for about a year, tried Opera and have now been using that for years and will continue to do so.

06-28-09 16:02 #

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Creaphis
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DooMAD said:
Incidentally, what ever happened to Opera? No one seems to care about that anymore.

Good question. The first browser I used other than IE was Opera, and back when I switched to it I was under the impression that Opera and Firefox were more-or-less on equal footing with eachother, and the question of which you would use was left to personal preference. I later switched to Firefox when I started running into compatibility issues and heard of the benefits of plug-ins, and haven't really thought of Opera since. But according to this random site I just found through a Google search, Opera is doing about as good as ever.

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GreyGhost
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I'm betting there's dozens of fake "winning sites" in webland - all scamming personal details from gullible IE8 users - hehehe.

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GhostlyDeath
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The first browser I really used was Netscape 4.7, IE4 sucked. Also, these days you need Internet Explorer to fill out a job application! We can start conspiracy theories.

06-28-09 16:41 #

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Enjay
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I tried Opera and, actually, in its basic form I preferred it to Ff. However, its plugins didn't do what I wanted as much as the Ff ones did and also the Google toolbar has become part of how I browse. The Ff version is a fully fledged Google toolbar like the one that works with ie whereas the one for Opera is just an add on that looks a bit like it but doesn't have the functionality that I want.

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Zaldron
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Laugh all you want, if only everyone had IE8 installed instead of some shitty 6/7 version that further fragments the xHTMLx-compliant community.

06-28-09 18:18 #

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Maes
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Zaldron said:
Laugh all you want, if only everyone had IE8 installed instead of some shitty 6/7 version that further fragments the xHTMLx-compliant community.

Or you can do like a web design company I know of that only made Flash "websites". Voila', no compatibility problems, and looks as good with anything downto Netscape 4.x, as long as it has the plugin.

J/K, Flash sites are terrible, but AJAX and DOM support is also not as uniform as it should be.

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Zaldron
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Maes said:

Or you can do like a web design company I know of that only made Flash "websites". Voila', no compatibility problems, and looks as good with anything downto Netscape 4.x, as long as it has the plugin.

J/K, Flash sites are terrible, but AJAX and DOM support is also not as uniform as it should be.

heh, considered this back when I did web design professionaly, but it doesn't fix the embed inconsistencies and complicates AJAX needlessly. Flash has come a long way since but swf<>javascript communication used to be HELL.

06-28-09 21:29 #

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TheeXile
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Maes said:

J/K, Flash sites are terrible, but AJAX and DOM support is also not as uniform as it should be.

http://jquery.com/

Not a perfect solution, I know, but it helps. And there's other frameworks, too.

06-28-09 21:42 #

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Enjay
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Using Flash is still an excellent way to ensure that people will not look at your site.

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GreyGhost
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Enjay said:
Using Flash is still an excellent way to ensure that people will not look at your site.

Quoted for truth!

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Super Jamie
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I'll be sure to let YouTube know :P

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Phoenix
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Enjay said:
Using Flash is still an excellent way to ensure that people will not look at your site.

I don't get it! What's wrong with Flash? I love it!
(I know it's off topic, but when did Doomworld ever keep on one subject?)

06-29-09 09:06 #

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TheeXile
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Phoenix said:

I don't get it! What's wrong with Flash? I love it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_flash#Criticism

06-29-09 09:14 #

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Super Jamie
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Flash has been a bag of shit on anything except Windows for ages. With version 10, it finally doesn't crash Firefox all the time. The performance just sucks, which is handy if you ever want to make your 3Ghz Prescott machine slow to a crawl whilst playing a simple jumping game.

It's also a really shitty closed format, and is succumbing to Adobe's usual tactic of "become industry standard, inflict bloat". Not only that, it influenced Microsoft to develop Silverlight, and the more those assholes get of the web, the worse off we all are.

FLV may have been the placeholder format up until now, but HTML5 and Theora/Vorbis are on the horizon, so hopefully Flash's domination of multimedia will end soon.

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TheeXile
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Super Jamie said:

FLV may have been the placeholder format up until now, but HTML5 and Theora/Vorbis are on the horizon, so hopefully Flash's domination of multimedia will end soon.

Hah. Good luck with that. Flash ain't going nowhere any time soon.

I wish SVG would become the replacement standard for Rich Internet Applications, personally.

(Ironically enough it appears there's flash technology available that can load SVG, though, which in theory could compensate for IE being the lone major browser that hasn't adopted it natively.)

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deathbringer
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uhhhhhhhh

Vitalize FTW!

Though personally i'm not too bothered about flash, i can run everything i'm interested in running with it (like Youtube and Stickdeath). I even had some less-than-impressive attempts at making my own things in it. Which i beleive have been purged from human memory forever more.

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Enjay
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For me, the biggest problem with flash is still loading time. A "normal" site can be loaded and clickable in a very short space of time. On a slow connection, even if the whole page hasn't loaded, you may be able to start navigating a site that you already know as it loads. You don't need to see that gif file in the corner, or whatever, that you know is merely window dressing.

With flash, there will be a longer loading time, even on a decent connection, then you have to wait until the clickable bits appear (often after watching some dull animation) then when you do get to click to where you want to go, a second animation starts loading.

Seriously, if I arrive at a flash site, I am very likely to simply navigate away again almost immediately. If it's a site that I am more keen on visiting, I might wait. If loading is taking a long time, again, I will navigate away before it is done. Sometimes, if I really persevere, I will let the thing load and then sit through whatever comes next. If that is an unecessary animation, that's another potential navigate away point. Finally, if I eventually get to a point where I can then click something and it starts another loading cycle, it's good night Vienna and I'm outta there. I don't think that I have ever fully navigated a totally Flash driven site. Ever!

As for the YouTube comment... Yeah, fair point but also no. It's mainly not a flash site. What I mean by that is you can navigate around YouTube and not have to do it via Flash driven menus and so on. It's only when you decide to watch an actual video that you need the Flash component and, because that's the reason for visiting YouTube it is different. It's almost like going to a download site and navigating around it until you find the zip file that you want and then downloading it. The zip is the reason for being there, but not the way you use the site. Kind of. ;)

06-29-09 12:00 #

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