Creaphis
I will deliberately take a contrary position just for the sake of writing incredibly long arguments
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Jesus Christ, people. It's a fucking correlation. It's not a rule; there will obviously be countless exceptions. The fact that large sample sizes were necessary to demonstrate that this correlation is statistically significant is a clear sign that there are nearly as many exceptions to this "rule" as there are confirmations. This also is not in any way a "cause," in either direction. The researcher's explanations for the relationship between IQ and liberalism/atheism/monogamy are guesses at best. Finally, your IQ does not in any way reflect your objective worth as a human being. This should not be used as a way to bolster your self-worth and it certainly isn't something to get all huffy about.
[compactSprue] said:
I just noticed this but, look at the sample that the study worked from
"The study looked at a large sample from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health (Add Health), which began with adolescents in grades 7-12 in the United States during the 1994-95 school year. The participants were interviewed as 18- to 28-year-olds from 2001 to 2002. The study also looked at the General Social Survey, another cross-national data collection source."
having only a 10 year age group sample when voting age ranks from 18 to (infinity) is not representative.
If this was a legitimate study, they would have IQ Tested people across most age groups. Of course, they didn't do that. they only interviewed the most liberal age group in the united states for their results!
Just more of CNN's bullshit
You don't understand statistics. Choosing a sample that is demographically skewed won't affect the results of a correlation, aside from lowering its statistical significance by only a touch. There are still more than enough data points that range from high to low IQ and that range from conservatism to liberalism, theism to atheism, etc., to show that a relationship exists between these things in this age group (and then, probably, in other age groups as well). If this was a demographic survey, which extrapolated its results to the entire population (eg. "80% of all students are liberal, therefore 80% of all people are liberal!") this would be in gross error, but that isn't what was done here.
Now, if the study actually had included more data points from older individuals, the results would actually be much more "damning" for conservatives and theists, because that introduces another confound. There is a generational effect on IQ: your IQ is strongly influenced, not so much by age, but by when you were born, and essentially, the later you were born, the higher your IQ is likely to be, due to our increasingly information-rich environment. As older demographics are also more conservative proportionally, including their data in this study would add many more conservative, theist, and inordinately-low-IQ data points in support of this correlation.
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