eargosedown
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Deeforce said:
"Would you date someone who is transgendered?"
No and I think the problem is that those people go to happy public parties and show what they have (wwhhhuuaaaa!!!) . Also: your man (what he was before!) should be named as "he" and not as "she", wtf? I would not mob these people, I just would call them by their real nature.
I suggest purchasing rotten tomatoes to throw are the freaky "it" if it comes in your public space!
DoomUK said:
I know I'm risking causing some offense here, but I have to ask: what happens when someone believes themselves to be a giraffe or a rhinoceros, thanks to nature just screwing something up somewhere? Do we stop talking to them because they're no longer human and go and look at them on some safari in Kenya so they don't get insulted?
Ok, to use a less absurd comparison: was Michael Jackson a white man? Or was he a black guy who chose to have cosmetic surgery to try and look white?
This seems like a thinly veiled "slippery slope" argument, but I'll bite: gender identity is a part of the human mind, and incongruencies between gender identity and biological sex are probably as easy as an extra hormone bath by mistake in the womb. Considering the wide range of birth defects of the physical sorts present, when you consider a mismatch of gender to sex, it doesn't seem all that bizarre in contrast to things such as extra limbs, perception differences (aspergers, dyslexia) and development differences (acromegaly).
The difference between transgenderism and trans-specism is that gender and sex are both developed in the womb and can be different per individual (aka: boys and girls exist in humans) whereas the species of the child is always a constant in human birth (We only give birth to humans.) As such, there's no place for discrepancies between specie.
However, if we consider race to be different species, then there have been humans who have felt at odds with their racial identity between inter-racial parents. In that sense, I suppose, trans-specism exists. I believe racial expectations are being pushed from most of our social experiences in this day and age though, so this probably doesn't happen as much in the current age, but I may be incorrect.
Michael Jackson was Michael Jackson. If he identified as a caucasian, and fit into society as a caucasian, I don't see much issue with considering him caucasian, although I don't think that was his intent. I'm not too up on his history though--According to wikipedia he suffered from Vitiligo and Lupus, and the treatments he used to stop the illness as well as makeup used evened out his complexion and caused him to be more white as he aged.
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