Xeros612
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Justince said:
Xeros is nothing but a bullheaded contrarian. Likes duke forever but hates skyrim. Of course if skyrim was the black sheep he'd be all over it. Would probably shit on his own head in leu of using a popular shampoo.
Words cannot describe just how fucking stupid you are.
Mr Freeze said:
Shooters are not RPGS. The fuck you on, kiddo?
That's not even the point I was making. The POINT was that SHOOTERS, a genre that has NEVER been all that complex without going into subgenres like Tactical shooters, get enough bitching from a substantial(in size OR volume) portion of the community for being more linear than Doom or other "old school" shooters.
YET, when an RPG, a genre that has ALWAYS been more complex than a shooter, gets consolised and simplified into oblivion (pun not intended), the same community that will bitch to no end about comparatively smaller simplifications in an already simple genre will fail to give the SLIGHTEST bit of a fuck when a complex genre is simplified to a FAR larger effect.
>He thinks attributes meant anything outside of meaningless numbers for neckbeards to sperg over!
Nice bullshit, chanfag. This is a fucking RPG we're talking about here, not some fucking "run around and shoot everything" mindless shooter, kid. If you can't handle that then what the fuck are you doing even considering an RPG?
The attributes in REAL TES games affected your character's skills, abilities, carrying capacity, and health/magicka/fatigue stats. They were a major part of the game's role-playing system. But I guess that's too "complex" for console players today, despite Oblivion working well enough what, six years ago? Clearly too complex for you if you're spouting some bullshit "insult" you picked up from the cesspool of the internet.
Craigs said:
I actually like Skyrim's system a lot more than the previous elder scrolls games. Starting as pretty much nothing and from there developing your class throughout the game seems a lot more immersive than just choosing "I want to be a mage!" at the start of the game.
Oh and I remember the fallout games work kind of like this too so I guess Fallout is totally casual too.
You start as pretty much nothing in every other TES game as well. You plan your build at the beginning, but you seem to forget one of the main parts of TES: FREEDOM. You don't have to strictly stick to the build you made; you just have to work harder to improve the stats you decided not to focus on.
Fallout 3 isn't even a TES game, so I don't know why the fuck you're bringing it up in a subdiscussion that's clearly about TES. But yes, it IS rather casual compared to older cRPGs. Even then, it's more complex than Skyrim because *gasp* it had ATTRIBUTES and MAJOR SKILLS, and if you screwed up your build you had to either start over or WORK to fix it.
The above point comes up again. Shooter plays more simply than Doom, Quake, Unreal Tournament, etc., this community pretty much ranges between "rage comic" bitching and "lol this game is shit with no redeeming qualities at all". Game in a far more complex genre plays more simply than previous games in the genre and/or series to a much larger effect of simplification, and suddenly it's "lol move on". It's kind of like getting pissed off when someone kicks your car's window out but not caring at all when they set fire to your house.
Membrain said:
What does Morrowind have that Skyrim doesn't that makes it so much better?
Full implementation of attributes(they exist for one, they affect your skills for another), more skills, more items, you can actually use alchemy without having to access some static bench in a town, far more in depth conversation options with a greater total amount of dialogue choices, speechcraft implementation that utilised your character's speechcraft skill instead of some awful minigame(Oblivion) or replacing it with Mercantilism and keeping the name(Skyrim), far less hand-holding nature, fatigue actually meaning something(as in, as fatigue decreases, so does your ability to successfully do things so you have to pay attention to it and use restore potions as opposed to just limiting sprint time and making you stop doing power attacks from time to time), health and magicka don't easymode regenerate like every other easy game these days...
It's a much more complex and rewarding system.
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