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Quasar
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A very timely read indeed:

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

Especially the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs.

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Oddly enough, I've noticed a lot of people talking about that sort of slow creeping issue and the erosion of our liberties. Words that imply the problem will come along, but probably not soon enough to worry about. I could believe that we're heading towards that sort of era, with "terrorists" being the new "Jew" in terms of being an acceptable target.

Perhaps the Nazis were jsut before their time?

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Phobus said:
"terrorists" being the new "Jew" in terms of being an acceptable target.


There always have been "acceptable targets" in all societies, and "terrorists" (variously dubbed subversives, bolsheviks, guerillas, resistance fighters, etc.) were always high on the list.

The big difference this time is the threshold for being classed as one has been placed at an all-time low, at least for a democratic country, and been broadened so much that "moving the goalposts" doesn't even being to describe the situation. It is, for all effects and purposes, a "bypass clause" to the constitution.

The most disturbing thing is that, under literal interpretation, if you commit ANY crime it's in your best interest to go out of your way to be considered as a common penal code criminal, otherwise you'll be treated as a non-person (a terrorist). Common penal code criminals and felons will be the ones least affected by the bill (it has happened e.g. in Greece, where notorious bank robbers went out of their way to deny any connections to neo-terrorist groups, and instead pass off as "good, honest, old-fashioned bank robbers").

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Allied forces were so shocked and angered by what they found in the concentration camps that they forced the German population to view the atrocities found inside. How could the German people allow this to happen?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/8/8f/20100722201142%21NaziConcentrationCamp.gif

I imagine the German people kept telling themselves as laws were changed and liberties removed; "As long as we aren't doing anything wrong, why worry? It's for our safety."

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bytor said:
I imagine the German people kept telling themselves "As long as we are not Jews, why worry?"


FTFY

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Well, they were playing games like this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZsorFHfBhP4/S-juyS35l5I/AAAAAAAAA2I/kZ-EurbEaM4/s1600/juden-raus.jpg

For those who don't speak German, the name of the game is "Juden Raus!" (Jews Out!), and the objective of the game is to kick as many Jews out of Germany as possible.

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Ah, terrorists and pedophiles, the perfect strawmen. Any media can be censored, any person can be arrested, any human right can be suspended, as long as it is done ostensibly to thwart terrorists and/or pedophiles.

And if you dare to object, then it is obviously because you are yourself a terrophile pedorist.

It's like "why do you hate America" or "think of the children", but even better.

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Well this won't affect me anyway. I'm getting to 10th prestige in Call of Duty then I'm killing myself. Think I can avoid infinity detention until then?

*peels off "if god were real he'd be al-Qaeda" bumper sticker*

sorry Google, she.

Man, why can't Obama sign cool bills, like "Jail the Assholes Who Cheat at Multiplayer Video Games for Fiscal Year 2012 and Hereafter Forever"?

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DuckReconMajor said:
Well this won't affect me anyway. I'm getting to 10th prestige in Call of Duty then I'm killing myself. Think I can avoid infinity detention until then?

*peels off "if god were real he'd be al-Qaeda" bumper sticker*

sorry Google, she.

Man, why can't Obama sign cool bills, like "Jail the Assholes Who Cheat at Multiplayer Video Games for Fiscal Year 2012 and Hereafter Forever"?

This post made me retarded.

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What is this I don't even

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Danarchy said:
Kick the Jew by Parker Brothers
That game looks kinda fun.

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Technician said:
This post made me retarded.
Welcome to the club.

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I'm still waiting for the bill that makes disagreeing with a elected offcial terrorism with public flogging being the punishment.

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What more could you expect from the typical candidate put into power by the 1% you claim to HATE so much.

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Violator said:
What more could you expect from the typical candidate put into power by the 1% you claim to HATE so much.
Right, like Ron Paul would magically put an end to the bill that the Senate has already decided to pass regardless of presidential disagreement.

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Satyr000 said:
I'm still waiting for the bill that makes disagreeing with a elected offcial terrorism with public flogging being the punishment.
Disagreeing with an elected official (who represents the collective will of the people) isn't an act of terrorism, it's heresy, and the most appropriate punishment is being stoned to death by an angry mob. Trivia question - which Republican candidate would be most likely to sign such a bill into law?

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Damn...so that means I can't use my Al Shabab safety razor if I go to the USA, because it has the same name as a terrorist group and it might be considered endorsement?

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I'm not going to start complaining about my freedoms being taken away from me until I get arrested for smoking pot on my own property.

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Technician said:
Right, like Ron Paul would magically put an end to the bill that the Senate has already decided to pass regardless of presidential disagreement.

According to at least one Senator, the administration requested the language not be removed.

Obama's pretense of dissatisfaction, totally false as proven by his willingness to sign the bill anyway, is a political maneuver for the election. He has to feign disapproval with one hand while commanding with the other.

I didn't think deception of the populace in the US would ever get this obvious and yet still go almost completely unnoticed by the masses.

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Quasar said:


I didn't think deception of the populace in the US would ever get this obvious and yet still go almost completely unnoticed by the masses.



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The only ones left with any confidence at all are the New Dumb. It is the beginning of the end of our world as we knew it. Doom is the operative ethic
" -Hunter S. Thompson

That was way back (has it been that long!?) during the Florida hanging chads fiasco when the US Supreme Court overruled the Florida Supreme Court because Florida wanted to do a proper recount of the Florida votes to determine 'the ruler of the free world'. Back then very few people seemed to really grasp the magnitude of what happened, or if they did, didnt really care enough.

I took a godson out over the weekend to play football, and he was born in 2000, so this is all normalcy for him.

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Since the media won't show you this, I figured I'd go ahead and post it. I wonder, since I'm not good with political terms, does this mean that this bill repeals section 1021 or has yet to be authorized by higher forces in the congress?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grXmxxrxKb0

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