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Doom Marine said:
1. Listen to the way he treats the interviewer.

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exp(x) said:

The video doesn't show what the interviewer said to piss Romney off.

Also: lol, religion

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exp(x) said:

The video doesn't show what the interviewer said to piss Romney off.

Also: lol, religion

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Caffeine Freak said:
You really think Romney didn't know he was being recorded here? He's a long-time political figure and presidential candidate, giving an interview in a radio station. He knows fully well (as does anyone else in his position) that ANY time he gives an interview, it's being recorded.

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The Blaze said:
This, of course, isn’t the first time the video has circulated. In a 2007 interview with Katie Couric , Romney claimed that he was “intense” during the exchange, but that he didn’t lose his temper. The candidate also said that he didn’t know that there was a camera recording the off-air exchange (he, in fact, referred to it as a “hidden camera,” although it may have simply been a standard studio camera that he was unaware of).

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Doom Marine said:

I really think? Uh, no, it's what I researched:


There you go, Romney doesn't know he's on camera during that radio break.

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Doom Marine said:

So to paraphase what Bucket brought up earlier: the only thing you've done is trying WAY too hard to pick apart at small potatoes, and you're not very good at it either. So what exactly is your point?

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Caffeine Freak said:
Please, if what I said qualifies at picking apart at small things, then "OMG, Romney got defensive during a 1-minute segment of an interview, I'm aghast in horror" certainly does as well.

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Doom Marine said:

There you go again, peeling small potatoes.
I'm not sure if you even heard what was uttered in the interview, Romney professing about Judgement Day prophecies and all the Jews dying before Christ makes a second return... and the worst part was, he really believed in these things. The guy was revealing to us what he truly stood for when the camera was off, a rarity unseen in the Moderate Mitt when facing the press.

The real horror is, he's shown to be religious fanatic who will say anything to get the Oval Office. That's the tip of the iceberg, the real tragedy is that his advisors will be the same neocons from the Bush Jr. era.

If Mitt wins the election, prepare for WWIII.

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Caffeine Freak said:

Part of my point is, I have a hard time believing that most presidents/presidential candidates really, truly believe what their religious texts say, front to back. Obama claims to be Christian, yet clearly doesn't interpret the Bible in a strict fashion (his stance on gay marriage is one example). Even in this video, Romney several times expresses that he doesn't want to talk about Mormonism and that he's not running as a Mormon president, probably precisely because he knows how fucking crazy some of their doctrine sounds to most people.

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Doom Marine said:


Deep down, everyone knows damn well that Obama is an atheist at heart.

Romney on the other hand, changes his position (lies) so many fucking time that it averages out to be moderate, but what does he truly believe in when the cameras are supposedly off?

Of all the crazy fucking Mormon doctrines, one stood out most glaringly in the context of Romney's lying is "Milk before Meat", or "Lying for the Lord."

So the loyalty and welfare of the Mormon church overrules principles like honesty. This of course, can be twisted in infinite ways that the end justifies the means.

Mitt was moderate enough to sell himself to Massachusetts, but once he was in office, he vetoed the fuck out of legislation, 844 times. 707 of them were overridden by overwhelmingly Democratic majority. By the second half of his term, his approval rating was in the 30's and he knew better not to run again... Bipartisanship in the Romney house is airbrushing history. If you really want to know where he stands on the issue, look up the stuff he has vetoed, including emergency relief funds, and civil service. His record as MA Governor speaks louder than words: he is on the far right.

Moderate Mitt will sell himself moderate once again until he is elected. He will say he is against abortion now, but once in office, will overturn Roe v Wade in accordance with his faith. Romney will say he is against tax cuts for the rich, then cut his buddies a check once the plebeians have elected him. Do not be fooled, this guy is dangerous.

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The same presumption of gullibility has infused his misleading commercials (see: Jeep jobs to China) and his refusal to lay out an agenda. Mr. Romney promised to replace the Affordable Care Act but never said with what. He promised an alternative to President Obama’s lifeline to young undocumented immigrants but never deigned to describe it.

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In what his campaign billed as his “closing argument,” Mitt Romney warned Americans that a second term for President Obama would have apocalyptic consequences for the economy in part because his own party would force a debt ceiling disaster.

“You know that if the President is re-elected, he will still be unable to work with the people in Congress,” Romney said. “He has ignored them, attacked them, blamed them. The debt ceiling will come up again, and shutdown and default will be threatened, chilling the economy.”

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Caffeine Freak said:



Romney and Ryan have both stated they're pro-life except in the case of rape, incest and when the life of the mother is at stake. There's no ambiguity there. So I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with the Roe v Wade part.

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The exceptions he favors are quite narrow. According to the Guttmacher Institute, pregnancies resulting from rape accounted for about 1 percent of all abortions nationwide in 2008, the last year for which statistics are available, and pregnancies resulting from incest made up less than 1 percent. The institute had no figures on abortions performed to save a woman’s life, but said the combined exceptions are certainly below 5 percent of all abortions — in other words, for more than 95 percent of all currently legal abortions in the United States, Romney favors not merely leaving them up to the states but banning them altogether.

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Doom Marine said:
Deep down, everyone knows damn well that Obama is an atheist at heart.

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Doom Marine said:
"Lying for the Lord."

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myk said:
More than his ties to religion, I'd worry about where he gets his money and what lobbies Romney is tied to: His top donors are linked almost unanimously to investment banks, other banking entities, or financial funds and consultancies. He's one of those people himself, serving their interests before anything else. I mean, now, in times when the world economy has been more or less wrecked by banks which lobbied to privatize the economies of nations and financial speculators that throw their costs on the general population... would you really want make one of their immediate agents president?

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Bucket said:
Oh look, we got ourselves a Libertarian. Tell us again how going back to the gold standard will make everything better.

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Bucket said:
Oh look, we got ourselves a Libertarian. Tell us again how going back to the gold standard will make everything better.

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DooMAD said:

You might dismiss the views of others by making light of the situation, but I doubt you have any better suggestions as to how to fix it.

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Csonicgo said:


Bad suggestions are still bad suggestions. Pointing that out doesn't require that a person has to give better ones. The "good suggestion" would to drop the retarded "I've god mine" mentality. But, Not even libertarians are ok with this.

And no, there's no "real" truth in what he's saying. This "both sides are bad, so vote for the person that will never make it in a million years" has been stupid since... well, since ever.

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Csonicgo said:
This "both sides are bad, so vote for the person that will never make it in a million years" has been stupid since... well, since ever.

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DooMAD said:
You might dismiss the views of others by making light of the situation, but I doubt you have any better suggestions as to how to fix it. Whether you share DeathevokatioN's views or not, at least admit there's more truth in what he's saying than has ever passed through a presidential candidate's mouth.

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DooMAD said:

No more stupid than allowing the cycle to continue by being duped into believing you only have two choices.

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Technician said:
It's that kind of pessimism that has led to this absurd two party system. If everyone who refuses to vote because they find the current system unsatisfactory votes for a third party instead, you'd start seeing better and better chances of bringing a third party to the light.

Don't succumb to the "I'll pick the person with the smallest cock to fuck me in the ass" mentality. Vote for what you want.

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DooMAD said:
No more stupid than allowing the cycle to continue by being duped into believing you only have two choices.

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Technician said:
It's that kind of pessimism that has led to this absurd two party system. If everyone who refuses to vote because they find the current system unsatisfactory votes for a third party instead, you'd start seeing better and better chances of bringing a third party to the light.

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exp(x) said:
http://www.fairvote.org/instant-runoff-voting

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Compared to traditional runoff elections, IRV saves tax dollars, reduces money in politics and elects winners when turnout is highest.

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