Archvile
Register | User Profile | Member List | F.A.Q | Privacy Policy | New Blog | Search Forums | Forums Home
Doomworld Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.2.5 Doomworld Forums > Misc. > Everything Else > Horse DNA found in UK Tesco Burgers
Pages (4): « 1 [2] 3 4 »  
Author
All times are GMT. The time now is 17:48. Post New Thread    Post A Reply
kristus
Megablast!


Posts: 10604
Registered: 07-00


I may be mistaken, but you've not given me any reason to believe you. While it's true that in times of need, people has gone to eat whatever animal they can find, even pets. Horses generally aren't in overstock even in the times when they were still used for labor. The kind of horses you talk about weren't exactly the race horses we got today where they got these toothpick lower legs that snap like twigs. Also, horses live quite a long time most of them. And those who had them would hardly consider killing them just to sell their meat for cheap.

I'm sure it happened that they got injured and they decided to make a buck from a bad situation. But hardly in the quantities you were suggesting.

Old Post 01-16-13 21:02 #
kristus is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Maes
I like big butts!


Posts: 12241
Registered: 07-06



CorSair said:
As for canines and felines as a food, I got bit of reservations for it. Wouldn't mind to try those, if I got the chance.


What about rats? The hawkers sure seem to know their shit...they handle all aspects of rat cuisine, starting from catching them "fresh" right off the river/sewage canal nearby, expose them for the customer to take his pick, and then gutting/boiling them, all in front of the client, so you literally KNOW what you are getting!



This lady here seems to work somewhat differently: from what I understood, you have to supply the rats, but she handles the killing/gutting and uses a different technique for cooking them, by roasting them in a stone oven (seems more appetizing and safe to eat, I must say. If I had to try rats, I'd choose the roasted ones)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYltYOsenNY (requires login)

Maybe THAT'S the solution to the worldwide food and economic crisis? I can't imagine rats being driven to extinction...rats were a staple of the underclasses in Norman Spinrad's "Street Meat" near-future short novel, after all....

Old Post 01-16-13 21:24 #
Maes is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
printz
CRAZY DUMB ZEALOT


Posts: 8779
Registered: 06-06



Eris Falling said:

What else are they good for though nowadays, really?

They still are used as traction in villages here. I prefer to hear horses instead of cars, trucks and tractors mind you.

__________________
Automatic Wolfenstein - Version 1.0 - also on Android

Old Post 01-16-13 21:29 #
printz is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Technician
Still no custom title


Posts: 7823
Registered: 08-04


Around these parts horses are seen as large pets, so eating them is like eating a dog to some. Personally I have no issues with it.

Old Post 01-16-13 21:33 #
Technician is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Maes
I like big butts!


Posts: 12241
Registered: 07-06


This thread made me hungry.

Old Post 01-16-13 21:51 #
Maes is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
dew
experts


Posts: 3301
Registered: 05-08



kristus said:
I may be mistaken, but you've not given me any reason to believe you. While it's true that in times of need, people has gone to eat whatever animal they can find, even pets. Horses generally aren't in overstock even in the times when they were still used for labor.

look, i'll freely admit i don't have any numbers ready at my hand. this is fairly basic stuff, though. we're talking about the era before agriculture was industrialized - horses were very common for daily labour, you could find a few on every farm and they were irreplaceable for, say, hauling wood in the hilly terrain. even my granddad told me stories of watering big herds of horses just before '48 (cz, not the wild west). then the industrialization made them obsolete and in the eastern bloc there was even a "tractorization" period of confiscating and slaughtering excess horses, which meant pretty much all horses.


The kind of horses you talk about weren't exactly the race horses we got today where they got these toothpick lower legs that snap like twigs. Also, horses live quite a long time most of them. And those who had them would hardly consider killing them just to sell their meat for cheap. I'm sure it happened that they got injured and they decided to make a buck from a bad situation.

oh, true. we still use the term "brewery gelding" (direct, perhaps sloppy translation, sorry) to call someone really strong. but they eventually grew weak or got ran down by excessive demands of the master. the meat was always used up if it wasn't diseased... and i will admit that might be why it was considered low grade. it was usually old and tough from work. no one sane would keep horses as slaughter animals.


But hardly in the quantities you were suggesting.

again, gotta think of the time period - these were the times when most people ate meat once or twice per week. if they were fairly well off. large quantities of any meat weren't (mass-)produced at all. i could probably find you some web literature if you're interested and don't want to let me off easily, but to be honest, most of my knowledge is contemporary movies (i don't mean retro), documentaries and bits of anecdotes from oldtimers.

Old Post 01-16-13 21:59 #
dew is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
kristus
Megablast!


Posts: 10604
Registered: 07-00


Different parts of the world, different history I suppose. I don't know enough about american history to say. Most of my information is from movies and that's hardly a reliable source.

But poor people didn't have horses in Sweden and at least the northern parts Europe. They might have a pig that they'd save for winter. If they were really lucky they could have a cow as well. But feeding these during the winter season wasn't easy. Usually they would aquire a small piglet in the spring to feed it through fall and eat it for christmas. (hence the customary fatty foods we eat during this holiday) Rest of the time, they generally didn't eat meat at all. Horses were considered very important if you could afford to get and keep one. You wouldn't wear them down with excessive work unless you had to.

Old Post 01-16-13 23:05 #
kristus is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Doom Dude
Senior Member


Posts: 1309
Registered: 12-00



dew said:

that's all cool... but its taste sucks. this is why people usually prefer pork or beef over, like, rabbit. it's dry and there's no real taste to it.



Rabbit has it's own flavor and is pretty damned tasty in a stew.

Wouldn't eat a rat or a dog or a cat. Not sure about horse, tho I think I'll skip on Aliotroph?'s Japanese, raw horse snacks. I don't care for raw meat, tho steak with a bit of red in it is fine.

Some of the best pepperoni I ever ate was made from Moose.

__________________
My Maps On WIP::The Megawad Outpost

Old Post 01-17-13 16:05 #
Doom Dude is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
bcwood16
Member


Posts: 413
Registered: 08-11



Doom Dude said:


Rabbit has it's own flavor and is pretty damned tasty in a stew.

Wouldn't eat a rat or a dog or a cat. Not sure about horse, tho I think I'll skip on Aliotroph?'s Japanese, raw horse snacks. I don't care for raw meat, tho steak with a bit of red in it is fine.

Some of the best pepperoni I ever ate was made from Moose.



This :)

Old Post 01-17-13 16:34 #
bcwood16 is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
188DarkRevived
Banned


Posts: 1293
Registered: 06-04


I've eaten rabbit before. Just once. It tasted almost like turkey, although I still like turkey better.
But nothing beats the fish soup. Booyah!

Old Post 01-17-13 17:23 #
188DarkRevived is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
j4rio
Forum Staple


Posts: 2512
Registered: 07-10


Rabbits are awesome but caring about them is huge pita. They die like flies if they aren't constantly vaccinated.

Also, icelandic pony is somewhat casual meal over Iceland iirc.

Old Post 01-17-13 19:56 #
j4rio is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Necromancer-AMV
Junior Member


Posts: 155
Registered: 11-11


Friend of mine had bear a couple days ago. Said it tastes like really good steak. I find that a little hard to believe, but since he's a real red meat guy, I suppose I can give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think I'd eat grasshoppers and scorpions before I ate horse/cat/dog. Hell, we treat crab and lobster like delicacy, right?

Old Post 01-17-13 23:37 #
Necromancer-AMV is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Technician
Still no custom title


Posts: 7823
Registered: 08-04


When it comes to wild game, I stay away from carnivores. Also, all of our resident bears are regulars at our dump.

Old Post 01-18-13 00:02 #
Technician is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Philnemba
Senior Member


Posts: 1195
Registered: 09-09


I love horses so I can't find myself eating them :(

Since were on the topic on animal meat, alligator meat is delicious.

Old Post 01-18-13 00:06 #
Philnemba is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Maes
I like big butts!


Posts: 12241
Registered: 07-06



Necromancer-AMV said:
grasshoppers


They even have their own oil!

Old Post 01-18-13 01:46 #
Maes is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Satyr000
Member


Posts: 444
Registered: 10-08


Horse meat is something I have wanted to try for awhile. It's just not widely available in my area. I did how every try some grilled Cuy( guinea pig) at a Peruvian restaurant a couple months ago. Its was pretty good. Tasted a bit like rabbit.

Old Post 01-18-13 02:37 #
Satyr000 is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Phobus
Forum Staple


Posts: 2860
Registered: 10-06



Philnemba said:
Since were on the topic on animal meat, alligator meat is delicious.

I had alligator tail in Florida - it came in battered rings and was just ridiculously chewy. I'd kind of hoped for a steak or just a big slab of tail when I ordered it...

Old Post 01-18-13 09:09 #
Phobus is online now Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
bcwood16
Member


Posts: 413
Registered: 08-11



Phobus said:

I had alligator tail in Florida - it came in battered rings and was just ridiculously chewy. I'd kind of hoped for a steak or just a big slab of tail when I ordered it...



I had it on a cabab stick :)

It was ok, strangely it tasted just like I expected it to. Its a very white looking meat and tastes a little bit like chicken , but as this guy said its a bit chewy, though not too bad, I think maybe having it battered ruined it.

I dont know what part it was though, it may not have been tail.....expect it does make a difference.

Old Post 01-18-13 09:28 #
bcwood16 is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
walter confalonieri
Senior Member


Posts: 2034
Registered: 07-09


i don't see the problem here, think it was sewer rat or other animal instead of horses...

Actually i'm with maes, here in Italy eating horse meat (along with other game meat like wild boar) is a normal thing (actually we even eat frogs -in some rural parts of north italy- and back in the days even pigeons!) is a tasty meat (the horse) imo, and we i was a child (even now if i found it) but unluckily, is a little expensive...

Old Post 01-19-13 01:23 #
walter confalonieri is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Technician
Still no custom title


Posts: 7823
Registered: 08-04



walter confalonieri said:
i don't see the problem here, think it was sewer rat or other animal instead of horses...
To be fair, if I'm buying beef burgers, I like to remain confident that I am, in fact, buying beef burgers. One's stance on how they see an animal in their personal food-chain is irrelevant to the issue at hand, here.

Old Post 01-19-13 01:29 #
Technician is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Enjay
ASK ME ABOUT FOOTBALL / STEAM / DEAD CELEBRITIES / THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT


Posts: 6381
Registered: 12-00


Yeah, my only problem with this is that they were supposed to be beef burgers. I wouldn't care in the slightest if Tesco was stocking horse burgers. In fact I'd buy them at least once to try. However, the contents of an item of food should be what the label says it contains.

Old Post 01-19-13 10:40 #
Enjay is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
DoomUK
Forum Staple


Posts: 3841
Registered: 04-04



Maes said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=sRIntU0WnO4

That fucking video is one of the most revolting things on youtube. I don't even care if I'm offending anyone by stating this.

Old Post 01-19-13 12:11 #
DoomUK is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Maes
I like big butts!


Posts: 12241
Registered: 07-06



walter confalonieri said:
some rural parts of north italy


Aren't there "magnagati" as well, over there? :-p

Old Post 01-19-13 13:16 #
Maes is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Platinum Shell
Forum Regular


Posts: 771
Registered: 08-11



Nomad said:
Poor Charlie. he never should have gone to Candy Mountain.


I WARNED YOU ABOUT CANDY MOUNTAINS, BRO.

Old Post 01-19-13 17:05 #
Platinum Shell is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
walter confalonieri
Senior Member


Posts: 2034
Registered: 07-09



Technician said:
To be fair, if I'm buying beef burgers, I like to remain confident that I am, in fact, buying beef burgers. One's stance on how they see an animal in their personal food-chain is irrelevant to the issue at hand, here.


Right point, Technician. Why hidden the fact you serve other type of meat, serving it as another meat? I don't see the aim of this, just looks stupid (although is illegal eating horse meat in England...)


Maes said:

Aren't there "magnagati" as well, over there? :-p



maybe only in Veneto, and only in war times lol

Old Post 01-19-13 20:42 #
walter confalonieri is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Maes
I like big butts!


Posts: 12241
Registered: 07-06



DoomUK said:
That fucking video is one of the most revolting things on youtube. I don't even care if I'm offending anyone by stating this.


Actually, it's pure genius from start to end: their main preoccupation at the beginning of the video seems to be the price of rat meat, which amounts to something like $10/kg (after bargaining!).

The rats themselves appear specifically bred for this purpose and their cages are filled with coconut fragments (perhaps to make them appear more wholesome to potential customers?). I don't know, maybe they are gourmet rats, hence the high price...they sure are all big and very similar, which would be consistent with them being actually bred and raised for consumption, and not just randomly scavenged/caught from the streets/sewers. I'd expect to see more size/color variety, if that were the case.

At the end, after the butchering is over, I still throw a chuckle whenever I see the snickering vietnamese guy passing behind them, and that Pepsi refrigerator right behind them...yeah, I'm sure (grilled?) rat goes down nicely with some Pepsi!

Old Post 01-20-13 01:00 #
Maes is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
yukib1t
Will DDR for food


Posts: 2512
Registered: 06-02


http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/480/824/b90.jpg

Old Post 01-20-13 01:44 #
yukib1t is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Technician
Still no custom title


Posts: 7823
Registered: 08-04



yukib1t said:
[img]
That heifer is obviously a gender-queer pansexual.

Old Post 01-20-13 02:41 #
Technician is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
yukib1t
Will DDR for food


Posts: 2512
Registered: 06-02



Technician said:
That heifer is obviously a gender-queer pansexual.
Heh, I dunno. My ex was and the cow in the picture does not look like her.

Old Post 01-20-13 03:42 #
yukib1t is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
darknation
Forum Staple


Posts: 3082
Registered: 03-02


maybe he bought a new fursuit.

Old Post 01-20-13 03:46 #
darknation is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
All times are GMT. The time now is 17:48. Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (4): « 1 [2] 3 4 »  
Doomworld Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.2.5 Doomworld Forums > Misc. > Everything Else > Horse DNA found in UK Tesco Burgers

Show Printable Version | Email this Page | Subscribe to this Thread

 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are OFF
[IMG] code is ON
 

< Contact Us - Doomworld >

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.2.5
Copyright ©2000, 2001, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.