Joshy
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DoomUK said:
You're not making the reasoning behind your views particularly clear.
Do you wear a hearing aid? If yes, then science was behind that. Nature* had nothing to do with it, and it's not going to be able to repair an irreversibly damaged eardrum by itself any time soon (or whatever misfortune was behind your "disability"). While it's wonderful that something so obviously detrimental to life as deafness doesn't appear to have affected you too negatively, I could see how it's easy for people to get the impression that you're being anti-science when you pontificate the benefits of pure resolve and nature's capabilities over science's helping hand.
I didn't say anywhere that I refute science wholly, just to be clear in general. I dislike Plato but I like philosophy. If it's reasonable and the motivations are within ethical considerations, I don't see why not.
I can understand why people would be baffled when I advocate for the deaf community. I do wear hearing aids, but my reason for wanting to see the Deaf community flourish is not motivated by anti-science, but a way of accepting difference. Science can be used rather inhumanely especially when there is no consideration of the implications, such as possible diseases, pollution, etc, etc. For the Deaf, it's basically ethnicide, when people cannot see the upside in sign language and a healthy minority community that is naturally occurring, and rather them to speak and hear. Why mess with it? To satisfy the need to cure everyone, for everyone to become superbabies? It's no different to assimilating Australian Aborigines into a Western society that is completely incompatible with their beliefs. At the moment, their community is just shattered and confused.
Say hypothetically, the Deaf community doesn't exist. There would be no domain for natural language embodiment for deaf babies. No fucking way I'm learning philosophy by lip-reading, let alone babies attempting to learn through forced cultural/scientific values. To be quite frank, I wouldn't care less if my hearing aids broke. I'd still turn out the same provided I can embody a rich language naturally, and learn English alongside. When science (and/or ignorant idiots) threatens that naturally occurring cultural phenomenon, it really grates my backside. Obviously I plan on writing more about this topic as it is very relevant to a lot of issues currently around the world, but I don't think a gaming forum would be a good place for it. :P
To clarify my thoughts: GMO is definitely something quite farfetched, and we haven't exactly seen the benefits of genetically modified crops nor long term consequences (so far, it isn't sounding too good); I can't see how genetically modified babies are going to be any better. Indeed you could propose a teleological argument that we are meant to develop technology/science to bypass our disadvantage of not having teeth and claws to survive. But we've progressed far enough to be able to know when to draw the line, to start questioning what may happen in terms of ethics, to consider all variables (especially the environment) and if it is worth the investment in the long run. Who knows, GMO babies and clones could turn into zombies and threaten the existence of the human race before any meteors could have to chance to do so. :P
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