Mancubus
Register | User Profile | Member List | F.A.Q | Privacy Policy | New Blog | Search Forums | Forums Home
Doomworld Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.2.5 Doomworld Forums > Misc. > Everything Else > Get ready to be sickened beyond belief: Boy rapes 8-year-old sister
Pages (2): « 1 [2]  
Author
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:05. Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Flesh420
Member


Posts: 275
Registered: 08-05



Technician said:
Not to pry but what kind of porno was he searching? I mean, a kid searching for porn isn't anything a parent should conjure blame for.


Regular porn, male poking a female I was told. Nothing nuts like a whore taking it from a horse. He must have caught wind from a kid at school, and like every normal kid he got curious when mum was away. I figured censorship tards would be using that article as an example of why we need more internet censorship like they always do whenever they can find blame for whatever problem that should be put on the proper shoulders instead of their Dumbass theories: a) the kid was seriously fucked since hopping from his mother's bush and b) no no no Christians, Xbox is not the devil.

Old Post 02-06-14 23:04 #
Flesh420 is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Doominator2
Forum Regular


Posts: 859
Registered: 10-13



Flesh420 said:
Xbox is not the devil.

But Bill Gates is >:) JK

__________________
"!oremoR nhoJ ,eM lliK tsuM uoy emaG ehT niW oT"

Old Post 02-07-14 00:40 #
Doominator2 is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Mogul
Senior Member


Posts: 1753
Registered: 01-01


"This case has reignited the debate about children's access to porn" -- there's a debate about children accessing porn?

Old Post 02-07-14 01:08 #
Mogul is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Zed
Forum Regular


Posts: 879
Registered: 10-11



Doominator2 said:

But Bill Gates is >:) JK



http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?f...ds/marsw301.zip

IDCLEV 30

Old Post 02-07-14 01:21 #
Zed is online now Profile || Blog || PM || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Quasar
Moderator


Posts: 6035
Registered: 08-00



Mogul said:
"This case has reignited the debate about children's access to porn" -- there's a debate about children accessing porn?

No there's a debate about trying to restrict adults' access to it, based on "but think of the children!".

Old Post 02-07-14 01:50 #
Quasar is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
fraggle
Filled with the code of Doom


Posts: 7600
Registered: 07-00


Articles like this one present the intended conclusion so matter-of-factly that most people probably don't even notice the huge assumption in what's being claimed, let alone question it.

"A 13 year old boy admitted raping his eight-year-old sister after watching pornography on a friend's Xbox."

Does anyone really believe that Internet porn just suddenly turns normal 13 year old boys into rapists? It almost presents the boy himself as though he too is just an innocent victim of the big bad wolf of Internet porn.

Problem now is that next time the government wants to push forward with its agenda for censoring the Internet, they'll have this and no doubt other horror story headlines to cite. Policy should be based on scientific studies and actual evidence, not weasel-worded newspaper articles like this one.

Old Post 02-07-14 03:51 #
fraggle is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
darknation
Forum Staple


Posts: 3083
Registered: 03-02


It's not an uncommon thing, sadly. I know of at least one case in my town (ex-gf's little sister allegedly got fucked by her brother, whole family split straight down the middle by it). You just don't hear about it because of the ages of the people involved, the fact that the family shuts down and refuses to admit anything to anyone, the fact that it's fucking difficult to prove unless a medical examiner gets a look in very soon after the event and general legal derp.

Also, not a historian, but I am pretty sure there was rape and incest before the internet was invented.

Old Post 02-07-14 04:04 #
darknation is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Technician
Still no custom title


Posts: 7929
Registered: 08-04


You know the old saying: keep it in the family.

Old Post 02-07-14 04:40 #
Technician is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Nomad
Not dumb enough to get a custom title


Posts: 2701
Registered: 04-04


Solution: Teach your kids about sex, emphasizing the implications and explaining why certain things are wrong.

Reason no. 293057 the protestant iron grip on the US does more damage than good.

Old Post 02-07-14 05:00 #
Nomad is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
AndrewB
I would commit first degree murder and then fabricate evidence to make it look like self defense.


Posts: 4408
Registered: 05-00


You could let literally every kid in the world see hardcore porn on a weekly basis starting at the age of 3, and a generation later society would strangely not collapse. Rapes and pregnancies would even go down. Disagree with me, deep down you know I'm right.

Old Post 02-07-14 05:04 #
AndrewB is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Joshy
Forum Regular


Posts: 987
Registered: 07-08


I'd have to agree with fraggle, it is not plausible that porn would just merely flip the switch of wanting to rape someone. There's more chance that a lack of respect for women predates the boy's actions or intention of action. Whether he truly did it immorally/amorally or not is another matter, but it would be interesting to see just how the family in question live on a daily basis and what sort of values are transmitted within the familial discourse. It's not like porn does not alter the sexual cognition and behaviour of teenagers/children, but it's definitely not the main factor in cases like these.

Old Post 02-07-14 05:13 #
Joshy is online now Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
fraggle
Filled with the code of Doom


Posts: 7600
Registered: 07-00



darknation said:
It's not an uncommon thing, sadly. I know of at least one case in my town (ex-gf's little sister allegedly got fucked by her brother, whole family split straight down the middle by it). You just don't hear about it because of the ages of the people involved, the fact that the family shuts down and refuses to admit anything to anyone, the fact that it's fucking difficult to prove unless a medical examiner gets a look in very soon after the event and general legal derp.
I don't doubt that it's common and has probably been happening since the dawn of the human race. But it's certainly interesting how many news articles just like this one keep coming out focusing on Internet pornography. It's a trend that's started a year or so ago. There's a very obvious attempt to push an agenda, and so far it's basically been completely effective.

Old Post 02-07-14 05:31 #
fraggle is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Technician
Still no custom title


Posts: 7929
Registered: 08-04



fraggle said:
I don't doubt that it's common and has probably been happening since the dawn of the human race. But it's certainly interesting how many news articles just like this one keep coming out focusing on Internet pornography. It's a trend that's started a year or so ago. There's a very obvious attempt to push an agenda, and so far it's basically been completely effective.
A trend that has only hit hard in western Europe. I suspect Canada will jump on the enlightenment train soon.

Woman objectification is huge on the SJW left side and the think of the children mentality is huge on the hicks right side, so they got it both ways.

Last edited by Technician on 02-07-14 at 06:05

Old Post 02-07-14 05:47 #
Technician is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Csonicgo


Posts: 4439
Registered: 03-04



Technician said:
A trend that has only hit hard in western Europe. I suspect Canada will jump on the enlightenment train soon.

Woman objectification is huge on the SJW left side and the think of the children mentality is huge on the hicks right side, so they got it both ways.



On the left side this is actually crumbling. Most are now admitting that pornography itself isn't the problem, but the industry. Plus amateur porn could be "revenge porn". So in reality it's not the porn, it's just idiots in general. mostly this is because SJWs realize they like porn.

Old Post 02-07-14 07:02 #
Csonicgo is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
dew
experts


Posts: 3466
Registered: 05-08



Nomad said:
Solution: Teach your kids about sex, emphasizing the implications and explaining why certain things are wrong.

Heh, yeah. It really doesn't take that much effort, kids are gullible. At the age of 13 I was convinced that incest almost inevitably leads to hideous malformed mutant babies, so if you don't feel like describing the full works to your kids, just scare the shit out of them with that silly episode of X-Files or something.

Old Post 02-07-14 08:33 #
dew is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Quasar
Moderator


Posts: 6035
Registered: 08-00


For everybody discussing how this will be usable as propaganda and is obviously already being used that way, I have to pose you this question as well - how do you even know it's true, that it even happened at all? Because the news said so?

This whole thing sounds suspiciously similar to another so-called case I heard about through the media quite a while ago, being used for the exact same purpose of trying to drum up popular support for the porn banning agenda.

Old Post 02-07-14 15:36 #
Quasar is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Satyr000
Member


Posts: 466
Registered: 10-08



Quasar said:
For everybody discussing how this will be usable as propaganda and is obviously already being used that way, I have to pose you this question as well - how do you even know it's true, that it even happened at all? Because the news said so?

This whole thing sounds suspiciously similar to another so-called case I heard about through the media quite a while ago, being used for the exact same purpose of trying to drum up popular support for the porn banning agenda.



This^

The media in just about every country is nothing more then a tool of the government. They will air any thing and everything a government tells them to in order push a social or political agenda. Take everything any news agency tells you with a grain of salt.

Also, for those of you that doubt this, read up on the many cases fought by the FCC against all mainstream media outlets in the US. By, law these outlets are forced to keep a running record of every red cent they get in the from of ad funding or donations from any political origination or politician affiliated individual. The only problem with this is that these records are not public. The FCC has been taking the like Fox, CNN and the rest to court in an effort to force the funding records to be 100% public. Each and every time, the mainstream media outlets have simply lawyered up and managed to shoot the cases down. Claiming that the freedom of speech allows them the right to hide the records from the public. I'm 100% sure just about every country has the same issue.

Old Post 02-07-14 17:05 #
Satyr000 is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
j4rio
Forum Staple


Posts: 2597
Registered: 07-10



dew said:

Heh, yeah. It really doesn't take that much effort, kids are gullible. At the age of 13 I was convinced that incest almost inevitably leads to hideous malformed mutant babies



Incest does lead to major increase in chances of genetic diseases appearing in further populations. So, you were actually taught truth.

Old Post 02-07-14 17:07 #
j4rio is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
joe-ilya
Senior Member


Posts: 2113
Registered: 10-12


3WAOxKOmR90

Michael Rosen approves, whatever. That's disgusting.

__________________
Name at Zandoronum:jo3-ilya . name at Zdaemon:ilya_the_joe_12
YouTube channel My DSDA

Old Post 02-07-14 17:24 #
joe-ilya is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
Technician
Still no custom title


Posts: 7929
Registered: 08-04



Quasar said:
For everybody discussing how this will be usable as propaganda and is obviously already being used that way, I have to pose you this question as well - how do you even know it's true, that it even happened at all? Because the news said so?
We're not the irrational ones here, the public are. And they love stories like these to get outraged over.

Old Post 02-07-14 17:29 #
Technician is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
dew
experts


Posts: 3466
Registered: 05-08



j4rio said:
Incest does lead to major increase in chances of genetic diseases appearing in further populations. So, you were actually taught truth.

Don't worry, I know that, hehe. I was just imagining really severe deformities in the first generation - it'd probably take more generations to accumulate enough DNA damage for really freaky results.

Old Post 02-07-14 19:27 #
dew is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
geo
Forum Staple


Posts: 3272
Registered: 10-05


I've known a lot of women touched by their brothers and fathers. Since I'm everyone's therapist, I hear about it. Lucky that he got arrested, a lot of them don't.

As for incest causing flipper babies. I present to you Vadoma, the Ostrich Foot tribe >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vadoma

Generations of incest only gave them weird feet.

Old Post 02-07-14 19:31 #
geo is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
j4rio
Forum Staple


Posts: 2597
Registered: 07-10



dew said:

Don't worry, I know that, hehe. I was just imagining really severe deformities in the first generation - it'd probably take more generations to accumulate enough DNA damage for really freaky results.



Actually, one generation can be just enough for possible mutation results from autosomal recessive diseases. Look up Mendel's laws of inheritance.

Old Post 02-07-14 20:19 #
j4rio is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
dew
experts


Posts: 3466
Registered: 05-08


I did learn about that in high school. :P The chance is there, but realistically, I assume you need some stacking up over time/baby count. I'm not sure, but I don't think media reported on anything wrong with, say, Fritzl's progeny. I doubt they'd pass on such a meaty story. They certainly didn't for the recent multi-generation Australian incest clan, that was pretty disgusting even reading about it. The usual stories (gypsies from Eastern Slovakia settlements spring to my mind, heh) mention giving the child to a foster family with no health details, though.

Old Post 02-07-14 21:07 #
dew is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
j4rio
Forum Staple


Posts: 2597
Registered: 07-10



dew said:
I did learn about that in high school. :P The chance is there, but realistically, I assume you need some stacking up over time/baby count.


You don't need stacking. There is no stacking actually happenning at all. I'll try to explain it very briefly. There's enormous amount of people who already transfer a gene of certain disease, but that disease does not manifest upon those people in any form, they are just and only transfering gene of it. Let's tag such gene of transfering person as "Aa". A is the "fine" part of gene and the other one, a, is the "bad" part of gene. If this transferer procreates with somebody completely healthy, or in other words lacking any defect part of gene, you can't spawn anything genetically diseased. Let's tag such person as AA since both his halves of gene do not code any disease currently in question. Which genes will be present in next generation is based on complete lottery. By crossing AA and Aa, each parent gives one half of his gene randomly to each descendant independently. Therefore, there are 4 possible outcomes - AA, Aa, AA and Aa. This means there's 50% chance that descendant will be completely healthy or 50% chance that he/she will trasfer defect gene. Now, if you cross two transferers, which is extremely likely during incest compared to, well, non-incest, crossing will look like this - Aa x Aa -> AA, Aa, Aa, aa. 1:4 chance of being healthy, 1:2 chance of being transferer, 1:4 chance of horrible mutation manifesting. These chances are present in all generations, every time same chances, no stacking. This is the most common case of genetic diseases manifesting themselves, but of course a sick person can spread his gene as well, so by following these rules, you could find out that if somebody with two defect parts of gene procreated with healthy person without any defect part of gene, the next population will not be sick, but there will be 100% chance that all of descendants will be transferers of defect gene. That's more or less all to it.

Note that there is a little more to genetics terminology, which I admit to barely remember anymore. Also, this was the case of autosomal recessive disease, which are the most common to appear this way, but there are also autosomal dominant where even person with Aa gene will be "genetically sick" and not a transferer anymore, and there is also gonosomal inheritance which is also slightly different.

Last edited by j4rio on 02-07-14 at 23:30

Old Post 02-07-14 23:04 #
j4rio is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
dew
experts


Posts: 3466
Registered: 05-08


Alright, so you're saying it's not stacking up per se, it's betraying evolutionary selection. Regular reproduction kinda evens itself out, so the healthy genes win, but with siblings it's up to predisposition. If a bad gene is present, it will propagate with a higher chance and actually stack over time - not because the Mendel inheritance rules, but because the inbreeders will inbreed even with genetic trash an outsider wouldn't touch. And technically, a pair of genetically perfect übersiblings can spawn a master race... until some bug finds a way to wipe them all out in a single sweep, because they lack the crucial genetic variation. Are we on the same page now? :)

Old Post 02-07-14 23:52 #
dew is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
j4rio
Forum Staple


Posts: 2597
Registered: 07-10


Well, if you're looking at the matter from single-to-few generations perspective, which is by far the most notable, there's nothing much else to it than possible manifestation of genetic sickness that one parent was transfering. A long time span would have other consequences, since basically there is no evolution happenning anymore.

Old Post 02-08-14 06:55 #
j4rio is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
myk
volveré y seré millones


Posts: 15226
Registered: 04-02



Technician said:
We're not the irrational ones here, the public are. And they love stories like these to get outraged over.
Blaming the readership, listeners and viewers follows the neoliberal idea to simply blame demand when companies and lobbies take a dump on society. People don't necessarily love sensationalist and paranoid media garbage, but it's very useful to combat journalism that actually does deal with social problems, and media owners and their hired editors deliberately use it to that effect.

I never forget the media coverage we got here after the 2001 economic crisis. Because of the economic downturn, a bulk of the poorer sections of society were forced move out of their neighborhoods and protest or work as waste pickers. The bigger media kept spamming about supermarket robberies, kidnappings or "insecurity" instead of dealing first and foremost with what was causing any of that.

More than a sign that the masses are stupid and debased, it's a sign that the media is being dominated by elites whose interests clash with those of large portions of the less fortunate parts of society and that intend to silence their issues and drive discord and self-loathing in their mist with repeated fearmongering and stereotypes.

Old Post 02-08-14 17:00 #
myk is offline Profile || Blog || PM || Email || Homepage || Search || Add Buddy IP || Edit/Delete || Quote
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:05. Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (2): « 1 [2]  
Doomworld Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.2.5 Doomworld Forums > Misc. > Everything Else > Get ready to be sickened beyond belief: Boy rapes 8-year-old sister

Show Printable Version | Email this Page | Subscribe to this Thread

 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are OFF
[IMG] code is ON
 

< Contact Us - Doomworld >

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.2.5
Copyright ©2000, 2001, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.