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grapefruit66
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Hi everyone

I've always wanted to help you with this Freedoom project, but frankly, I can't do much: I can't draw graphs, build maps and so on. But some time ago, I got and idea of some monsters. Hope you're interedted?

Here's a sketch of my Female Mutant, that - I hope - can replace Spider Mastermind or Spiders (but they're already done).

I'd really like to make all the sprites of her but - as I said - I'm not a kind of artist and I'd surely: 1) ruin all of frames with lame sprites and then 2) give up.

I know, I know - a single drawing isn't helping much, but maybe someone will animate her instead of me? Maybe someone more talented will catch the idea? I think it's always better to show something that hide it deeply in the shelf. Tell me what you think!

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7982/femmutantwx3.th.gif

And one more thing: where's a gun of this lady, you ask? I don't know. Maybe let her hold a big gattling cannon?

Last edited by fraggle on 01-26-08 at 20:13

01-25-08 07:43 #

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leileilol
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is the huge rack really necessary for monster

01-25-08 20:14 #

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grapefruit66
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I don't get it, I'm confused and I fear that you must explain me this "rack" in some other way. Sorry, but English isn't my native language and dictionaries don't give me any rational translation of "rack".

01-26-08 12:07 #

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GreyGhost
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Definition from the Online Slang Dictionary.

Hope that helps.

01-26-08 12:52 #

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grapefruit66
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Yes... I should knew that...
Thanks for the link.

So, as I wrote in the sketch picture: no, she can have smaller boobs, she can be also more skinny. She can be even clothed. She's a monster, not a porn-star and I just wanted to give you the general idea, not the exact picture of it. I tried to make few sprites of this lady but she looked like a sailormoon girl.

And I assume that freedoom doesn't need sailormoons.

Maybe there's somebody who's more talented.

And besides her boobs, what do you think about her as a monster?

01-26-08 13:17 #

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GreyGhost
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Might look more menacing if the human torso was attached to a tiger-like body with oversized feet and claws - just a suggestion.
I'd also suggest avoiding a spider-like body or posture for your monster - it could end up looking like a clone of the Vagary from Doom 3.

01-26-08 14:49 #

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grapefruit66
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Something like this?

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7914/tigeressqz5.th.gif

Warning: fast and dirty sketch form my notebook. Warning 2: This time it's hand-drawed! (186kb, gif file).

If so... maybe give her a role of hellknight? Actual one (light-gray, bulky thing) would make GREAT pinky. Then Fredriks propistion (monster with with elephant look) would be a Baron. And this lady would complete match? (elephants - India. Tigers - India.)

01-26-08 15:50 #

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leileilol
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i think a machine spiderdemon would be better. Where's the chaingun gonna get fired from that?

01-26-08 19:12 #

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grapefruit66
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If you're talking about my first sketch - maybe make a chaingun instead of her arm (like cyberdemon?). Or mount it in her belly - then we may make her pregnant, with chaingun as a fetus that's sticking out?

But frankly, I think GreyGhost is right. She may be then looking like a Vagary from Doom 3.

Moreover I think that tigeress is a better idea. She could replace more types of monsters: hellknight, demon. Even imp, which people dislike. Of course nothing stands in a way to make two monsters, but as I said, we still need an artist. In fact (sad but true) as for now I am the one who gives the job (or gives a potential material for job), not helps with it.

EDIT: Just another quick & dirty work: hope its something more than sketches

http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?...bossa2a8lo9.gif

Last edited by grapefruit66 on 01-27-08 at 11:01

01-27-08 09:02 #

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MikeRS
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Making a pregnant "spider" mastermind would actually be a good idea, it could seem as though new demons/monsters are born from her.

01-28-08 04:10 #

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grapefruit66
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OK... so maybe half-woman (in pregnant), half-scorpio? Then we would have another good place for weapon, at the end of a tail, instead of sting?

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grapefruit66 said:
Something like this?

[IMG][/IMG]

Warning: fast and dirty sketch form my notebook. Warning 2: This time it's hand-drawed! (186kb, gif file).

If so... maybe give her a role of hellknight? Actual one (light-gray, bulky thing) would make GREAT pinky. Then Fredriks propistion (monster with with elephant look) would be a Baron. And this lady would complete match? (elephants - India. Tigers - India.)

That is a furry. No furries in Freedoom.

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muffins.exe
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rf` said:

That is a furry. No furries in Freedoom.

this this a million times this

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Fredrik

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don't give up your day job

Actually, a tiger would be a cool monster. I already suggested an elephant for the BOH.

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myk
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Keep in mind the dimensions of the Spiderdemon. Unless some sort of hack is applied to the monster (which Freedoom isn't doing for any of the monsters), a humanoid monster doesn't make sense, because the engine considers the monster to occupy a huge block of space. I think an octopus-like monster would easily fit as a replacement of the spider, moving around on its tentacles. (Cthulhu's cousin? Heh.) Maybe it could wield implanted chain guns at the tips of two or three tentacles.

EDIT: I was forgetting, not only does the game demand a body that occupies a lot of space like the spider, but it also moves in a special way, shifting to the side unlike other monsters (except the Arachnotron, which is similar). Another reason to make it something with many appendages.

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Fredrik

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myk said:
I think an octopus-like monster would easily fit as a replacement of the spider, moving around on its tentacles.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/freedoo...ermind-concept/

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myk
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Fredrik said:
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/freedoo...ermind-concept/

Heh, I may have been subconsciously inspired by that but I had forgotten about it. That should be a good start, especially that body and the mouth, although I'd add some techy details, possibly evident guns as noted above, and maybe more tentacles.

02-10-08 21:18 #

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Replica
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I guess you dont want to use the one i made. :/

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Jon
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I haven't really commented on any of the recent sketches, as I've been busy trying to fix the texture1 issue (which is admittedly pretty boring to everyone). Whilst fredrik's sprite frame there looks excellent, I wouldn't want anyone put off from attempting a mastermind unless fredrik indicated still had interest in working on it and that he'd made some progress since the last frame was posted, as he's a very busy fellow.

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Replica
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Well, is there any sprites you need?

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grapefruit66
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Fredrik said:
Actually, a tiger would be a cool monster. I already suggested an elephant for the BOH.

Both are from India and I think this kind of royal family would make a match. However rf` and muffins.exe disliked idea of tigeress. But elephant is very, very cool... are you still working on him?

And am I supposed to still work on this tigeress? I will soon (I hope!) pass all of my exams and then I'll have some time work with sprites.

Fredrik said:

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/freedoo...ermind-concept/

Looks great, much better than my proposition. I have only one thing to admit: if we put this monster in to the game, wouldn't it look like Quake's boss Shub-Niggurath?

http://gameplayer.se/images/38/29/8...78d70fab92e.jpg

02-14-08 09:00 #

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