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I decided the level guidelines in the README were rather brief, so I created a more detailed set of level guidelines:

http://freedoom.despayre.org:81/level-guidelines.html

If you are working on levels you might want to have a look at this.
Did I miss anything?

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excellent!!11

i'd like to mention that the deepwater and invisible bridges effects you mentioned not to use can both be replaced by boom 242. most people know that deep water can be replaced, but so can invisible bridges. see boomedit.wad for example of usage.

i have one colormap request, if possible: something that fades to grey for fog, probably 0x7f7f7f or similar. i can supply one if needed. i like fog :)

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esayeek said:

i have one colormap request, if possible: something that fades to grey for fog, probably 0x7f7f7f or similar. i can supply one if needed. i like fog :) [/B]


That sort of colormap will alter every single map tho, not just single sectors like Boom deep water colormaps do. Actually it's impossible to do fog effects in a coupld sectors or even in a single map in Boom.

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Cyb said:


That sort of colormap will alter every single map tho, not just single sectors like Boom deep water colormaps do. Actually it's impossible to do fog effects in a coupld sectors or even in a single map in Boom.



no i mean a deep water usable colormap that goes between c_start and c_end. yes its doable yes you can use it to set fog yes it can be used on only one map yes it can only be used on part of a map even yes it uses linedef 242 yes it looks cool and yes i've done it

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The exception is that 2-3 levels will need to be plain doom2 for recording demos. (while boom editing features are fairly standard, there is no real standard demo format across the ports - the closest is original doom2 v1.9)


Yes good idea. Note that v1.9 demos can be recorded with PrBoom (maybe others, JDoom?) and played back by limitless ports even on levels that would overflow doom2.exe, so this restriction does not mean anyone should spend hours getting their levels below VPO limits. It's very unlikely we'll need to go out of our way to meet this requirement.

Changing subject, MBF demos are not badly supported; PrBoom can play and record MBF demos, so together with MBF you can play and record on all major platforms. I guess smmu/eternity are not far from supporting playback. The demo crowd already use it a lot for TAS demos so are probably happy with it. This would be the natural choice for freedoom demo packs.

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esayeek said:
i have one colormap request, if possible: something that fades to grey for fog, probably 0x7f7f7f or similar. i can supply one if needed. i like fog :)
You're welcome to submit extra colormaps if you want. Is the fog effect done using 242 colormaps and translucent lines on the edges, like in FFI?

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fraggle said:
You're welcome to submit extra colormaps if you want. Is the fog effect done using 242 colormaps and translucent lines on the edges, like in FFI?


yeah. it takes a little work; you of course have to tag every sector that the player will be in in the fog and give it it's own 242 control sector. but i think it looks cool. exactly how should i submit this colormap?

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Wack it in a .wad and upload it to /incoming/freedoom .

if you could chuck in a test MAP01 or something we can extract the MAP for the main tree and also have a look at the effect too :) Perhaps stick the level in a seperate WAD file for simplicity.

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Jon said:
Wack it in a .wad and upload it to /incoming/freedoom .

if you could chuck in a test MAP01 or something we can extract the MAP for the main tree and also have a look at the effect too :) Perhaps stick the level in a seperate WAD file for simplicity.

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cool :)

*poof* fogmap.zip uploaded

i can do a sample .wad, probably get it in by tomorrow morning

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esayeek said:


i can do a sample .wad, probably get it in by tomorrow morning



Heh, I look forward to the sample then.

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Cyb said:


Heh, I look forward to the sample then.



ewwwww.... i hate to break it to you, but it looks like i wont be doing a sample. you know why? because tonight, in a fit of inspiration, i well.... err umm i uhh..... i started my freedoom level!! :)

so as soon as i get an unfinished version of that out you will be able to see teh foggage.

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Cyb said:


Heh, I look forward to the sample then.



the current map31.wad in freedoom_levels.wad, while obviously not done, illustrates this effect.

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So does this mean line type 244 (silent teleport) is allowed, then? I usually don't edit for Boom and am not sure if it supports that.

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Erm well if its a boom line type then yes.. what do you usually edit for?

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Archvile64 said:
So does this mean line type 244 (silent teleport) is allowed, then? I usually don't edit for Boom and am not sure if it supports that.


pick up a copy of boom and read boomref.txt: everything that's allowed in boom and nothing that's not. if you are still concerned then know that i play every single level in freedoom (although some of them on lower skill levels ;) ) using vanilla boom 2.02; so i will catch any boom incompatiblitities that slip through.

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Jon said:
Erm well if its a boom line type then yes.. what do you usually edit for?
Ususally my levels are just for any source port, since I don't use any specific features, but I've only tested them in ZDoom.

I did just run through one of my levels that uses the 244 line type in Boom, and it works, so I'm assuming it's okay.

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Ok cool. I'd recommend you get a copy of boomref.txt (its in the editing section on doomworld somewhere). It's a really useful reference.

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