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danarchist
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Who is the best Sayan?

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Chibi Goten and Chibi Trunks. if you ever see dbz movie 10 and 12, you'll know why. however, i like DB Chibi Goku too.

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I'm going to have to stick with Goku. I love the vacant look on his face whenever he isn't fighting (or about to fight). He's my favorite character, next to Piccolo.

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Tut, tut. You misspelled a few things. First of all it's Goten not Gotan. And Kamehameha has no y's in it.

Lastly, you left out the coolest Saiyan of all, Brolli.

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Well, I don't know. I really don't watch that much DBZ, but I'd say Goku, Goten, or Piccolo.
What has this to do with Doom, btw?

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Where's the "DBZ sucks" option?

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Where's the "DBZ sucks" option?


since it doesn't suck there is no need for it...example:

What Do you think of Doom?

A)It rules
B)Awesome
C)Kick Ass
D)I'm gonna play it until I die!
E)Doom sucks

see? the "Doom sucks" option doesn't fit because Doom doesn't suck so it makes absolutely no sense to put it in...

As far as the best Saiya-Jin Goku, but he's not my favorite character

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Where's the "DBZ sucks" option?


More like where's the "Anime sucks" option.

In any case, ditt-fucking-o.

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I actually hate most anime, but I watch Dragonball for shits and giggles. BTW, Vegeta ownz you.

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BTW, Vegeta ownz you.


I'm telling you, you need to see Brolli in action. Movie 8 is his first appearance, and Vegeta (who is less than half Brolli's size) can't even manage to phase the beast. The best scene is where Vegeta throws an energy blast at Brolli, who just walks through it like it was a gust of wind.

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I don't know about you guys, but I just love the toppest character Goku. I feel his appearance and the strengthe living in his heart is much better than any other sayans. But well, speaking of skills of sayans, I can tell you guys that there is no definite answer for which sayan is the strongest ever. Because according to the fact of the generation of sayans, each sayan decendents would get stronger and stronger than his ancestry. His power would keep growing and growing. So Goten would become the strongest sayan at the end of the whole DBZ series. Btw, I bet Ubuu would become a stronger one, because Ubuu is a human reincarnation of the Majin Buu.

Chibi Goten and Chibi Trunks. if you ever see dbz movie 10 and 12, you'll know why. however, i like DB Chibi Goku too.

heh I've also watched dbz movie 13 & 14 & 15. mv13 was about Chibi Goten and Chibi Trunks. mv14 & 15 was about the soul of Goku was back to Earth and fused with Vegetta to become a stronger fighter, Gogeta

Tut, tut. You misspelled a few things. First of all it's Goten not Gotan. And Kamehameha has no y's in it.
Lastly, you left out the coolest Saiyan of all, Brolli.

Actually it doesn't really matter if it's misspelled, cuz' it's only a translation from Japanese to English. They aren't original anyways, so who the hell would give a damn to the spellings

Well, I don't know. I really don't watch that much DBZ, but I'd say Goku, Goten, or Piccolo.
What has this to do with Doom, btw

Topics don't have to stick with Doom all the time, lighten up man

Where's the "DBZ sucks" option?


Where's the "Anime sucks" option?

uh, you suck!

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heh I've also watched dbz movie 13 & 14 & 15. mv13 was about Chibi Goten and Chibi Trunks. mv14 & 15 was about the soul of Goku was back to Earth and fused with Vegetta to become a stronger fighter, Gogeta
there was only 13 dbz movies. the trunks and bardock special aren't movies.
movie 10 is about goten and trunks going against brolli for the first time, and movie 12 was about goku and vegeta fusing into gogeta and kicking janemba's ass. it also had goten and trunks easily defeating hitler by fusing into gotenks.

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Gee, all these names got me confused. It's really hard to get them all translated from my language to English :)

/me is viewing www.animes.com/hq to confirm with the names.

Bardock was shown in dbz movie 8 when he planted a spirit tree or whatever on earth to absorb energy from it

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fuck! you bastards spoiled all this shit for me. I say goat.cx you all!

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Where's the "Anime sucks" option?

uh, you suck!



More like where's the "Anime Sucks" option.



1. If you're gonna quote someone, do it right and use their exact words

2. Since when was not liking anime basis for one sucking? GROW UP!!!! IT'S NOT WORTH THE FLAMEWAR!!!!

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Bardock was shown in dbz movie 8 when he planted a spirit tree or whatever on earth to absorb energy from it


Bardock... Bardock is Goku's father... it has nothing to do with the Tree of Might if that is what you are talking about. If I remember correctly that was movie 2 or 3... Bardock was never in a movie, but he was in a special episode that some people might consider a movie. It is not, however, on of the real movies, and even if it were in list as such it would most likely be considered movie 5 (if I remember correctly movie 5 was about Icer). The list might have included the three (I think there were only 3) movies from the original Dragon Ball series, which would bring Bardock (in theory) to be the eigth "movie".

Movie 8 was Brolli, as were movies 10 and 11.

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/me is viewing www.animes.com/hq to confirm with the names.


Ummm...thats a porn link...

Anyways, where do these Dragonball movies come from? Do they sell them on tape in the US or show them on TV?

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Correction: www.animehq.cc

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Bardock was shown in dbz movie 8 when he planted a spirit tree or whatever on earth to absorb energy from it


That.
Was.
NOT.
BARDOCK!

That was Turles. (Taurus, or whatever.) Sure he was a Sayjin, but he certainly was NOT Bardock. Not enough scars. Bardock also died years before the Tree of Might was planted.

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Well then I don't know for sure of which is which. Probably the versions of dba movies I watched is different from USA's

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I never watched any of the DBZ movies - instead I had to wait until the DBZ episodes came out on cartoon network. Right now they've only made it up to the world martial arts tournament in which the Z fighters have to fight Bibidi (to prevent Majin Buu from escaping - which im assuming he does).

I invented a psi-warrior/god that could snap any character in the DBZ universe in two just because he uses different powers than they do (except the eternal dragon and anything that is already dead). He uses physical energy instead of Ki, to which there is no defense against the former. Vegeta might be strong enough to pulverize a planet but a disintegration ray would ...well disintegrate him (ie, disappear into thin air under a green glow), and no amount of ki energy would be able to defelct or prevent it (and it cant be dodged - infinite travel speed). There's many other attacks that could be used, but disintegration is my psi-god's signature mark (whilest he has a fighting power of aobut 1,000,000, he prefers using physical energy instead: better to generate an attack of inescappable doom rather than an attack with a high chance of success).

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(whilest he has a fighting power of aobut 1,000,000, he prefers using physical energy instead: better to generate an attack of inescappable doom rather than an attack with a high chance of success).


I really hate to drag this out, but it seems like your fighter would be dead before he even got a change to attack, assuming that his speed is proportionate to his power.


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He doesnt use his fighting power anymore - it's been replaced by something much more efficient - telekinesis and psychomodification (plus some very radical forms of mind of over matter that manipulate space-time).

He's got something better than speed - time warp. He can increase or decrease his passage through time at will (or rather, the speed at which everything else in the universe moves in relation to him, depends on which way you look at it). Vegeta may all the sudden get 10 times as fast as before - but he can't think 10 times as fast. All of my psi-god's abilities are increased when he induces timewarp on himself (effectivly making everything else move ten times as slow in regard to himself), so increasing a fighters speed against him only puts them at a disadvantage (because effectivly, their reaction time gets cut by that amount).

Beyond this - he never "loses" his energy, energy is so abundant in this universe and he can suck it up from just about anywhere so he never really runs out (but distance between him and energy and the amount of energy can make it more difficult, but if he's in a bind he can dematerialize matter into pure energy for a really powerful boost).

Nevertheless because of this he's equivalently 50,000 years old - but that doesnt bother him because he's made significant modifications to his body to make it "immortal" (never dies of old age, regenerates extremly quickly).

In addition to these abilities, he has an unlimited range teleport at his disposal (so in the short amount of time it takes to perform it, he can be out of range of even the fastest instant transmission - since it only travels at the speed of light).

Because of the nature of his power - it has both advantages and disadvantages. Ki energy is good at destroying non-living objects but not good at destroying living objects (because they also have a ki field, whereas non-living objects dont... those palm blasts they fire all the time put craters in the ground but never seem to vaporize their oppnents like they should). Real energy doesn't discriminate (im talking energy that can be measured in joules, foot-pounds, etc.), and it can make quick work of any living being - but it takes tremendous amounts of it to say... destroy a planet. So my psi-god, however dangerous he might be to other fighters, will probably never be able to destroy a planet (sure - he could pommel it with asteroids and meteorites - but that only scorches the surface).

As far as good or bad - he's neutral, more like a mercinary. And basicially he's ten times as dangerous as all the enemies the Z fighters ever faced put together (except majin buu, maybe twice as dangerous as that).

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Hey it's a spam forum, and since this post was so long, im probably not going to release any other info on my psi-god (since he doesnt even have a name - we'll call him "Zin" for now).

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I never watched any of the DBZ movies - instead I had to wait until the DBZ episodes came out on cartoon network. Right now they've only made it up to the world martial arts tournament in which the Z fighters have to fight Bibidi (to prevent Majin Buu from escaping - which im assuming he does).


Yep, he suuuure does. He has the power to turn people into food and EAT THEM, absorbing their energy. Cool, huh?

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(I said I wouldnt do this)

Im pretty convinced that Zin would be able to beat all of the Z fighters at any time during their development (possibly even the combined forces of all the Z fighters at once).

You see, he's crafty and he's not exactly on an ego trip. Think of him as a super-powered cell who doesnt talk and still has just as much ability to hide and sneak around.

The comparison between ki and real power is like comparing a metal spike to a big rock - no matter how big the rock is the metal spike will always be able to cut it, but the rock can do things the spike cant do (like crush things). It's an apples & oranges type of thing.

Since Zin's powers aren't ki based, he doesnt need to involve his actual body in attacks - for instance he could be fighting and form a ball of plasma out away from his body and trick his opponent into getting within the blast radius. He could literally teleport an explosion that he is forming close to himself - right next to his opponent right before it explodes.

Timewarp doesnt increase Zin's ability to fire energy projectiles or "cast" effects because his timewarp does not effect the energy of his attacks - he gets faster but his ammunition gets more sluggish, and in addition it takes more energy for him to move aorund in timewarp than in standard time frame (10x timewarp = 10x amount of normal energy just to move around) - but he's got plen-t of it for that purpose (millions of megatons worth of explosive energy trapped in an interdimensional bubble) and of course it can be added to very quickly.

Anyone caught within the immediate blast radius of an antimatter blast would take more structural damage than from a kamehameha wave. It doesnt take a direct hit to kill with one of zin's animatter explosions (but the killradius is greatly diminished with highly powerful characters compared to mundane living objects) - basicially it would kill krillin if he got within a mile (but that size can change based on energy output).

A direct hit with a disintegration beam is instant death to any organism not larger than 2500 cubic feet (consumes 1000 cubic feet, assuming that the target organism needs at least 60% of their body mass and volume to survive). In fact there is no differentiation between direct hit and close hit - either it hits or it doesnt. Basicially it's as decisive as a railgun blast to a low-health character in Q2.

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You seem to be under the impression that the only power the Z fighters have is in the form of ki (or spiritual energy), and that they cannot withstand intense physical attacks (the physical energy you speak of). As much as I love to argue, it is pointless to do so when we are talking about a fictional series with as many discrepancies as the DB series has, so I'll make this short.

Have you ever seen any of the episodes where one of the characters is thrown through a mountain at a velocity exceeding the speed of light? You should have, it happens all the time. Note also that any object moving anywhere near the speed of light, a fist for example, would carry a tremendous amount of physical energy with it. To say that physical energy would destroy the Z fighters is not very accurate, as they survive incredible amounts of physical energy all the time.

You mentioned explosions as well. An explosion made by a blast of ki and a block of C4 have no difference (other than the ki blast causing the more powerfull explosion), because the explosion is releasing physical energy, and the Z fighters can withstand that as well.

You also mention that the Z-fighters do not increase their reaction time when they increase their speed. I'll answer that with a question. How is it that fighters moving past the speed of light can effectively block nearly every one of their opponents attacks if they think too slowly to react in time?

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ki (or spiritual energy)
Ki/Chi is a real thing, nothing spiritual about it.

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ki (or spiritual energy)
Ki/Chi is a real thing, nothing spiritual about it.


You know what I'm trying to say.

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And basicially he's ten times as dangerous as all the enemies the Z fighters ever faced put together (except majin buu, maybe twice as dangerous as that).


actually, if you think in those terms, your guy is only a fraction as dangerous as Buu. He.... Um... kills everyone on earth, blows up the earth, eats gohan, piccolo, and a few other people, and It takes a spirit bomb with the power of everyone in the univers to kill him!

(I probably ruined it for everyone, sorry. :( )

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no biggie...I already know the whole friggin series from episode 1 of Dragonball to the final episode of DBGT...my only wish is that Cartoon Network stop with the poor , poor translations and editing... :P everybody who thinks it sucks has seen the Cartoon Network version only, if the original japanes episodes were only translated into english 100% the right way and completely non-edited...it would be 10x the show Cartoon Network displays...

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