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hex11 said:
The truth is the surgeon doesn't really care about you. He only cares to the extent that you can pay him - he's not going to work for free. In fact, he will get paid somehow (if the hostpital values him) but you'll get billed for the work, even if you can't afford it. Then you'll be just another loser in debt, with bad credit, and thus a wage slave.



Quoted for the truth.

Doctors in 1930s Germany demonstrate clearly how much the medical profession 'cares' for people. Most of them weren't Nazis or members of the Nazi party, but all actively took part in human experiments that they knew were wrong and in conflict with their Hippocratic Oath.

But they did it because a higher authority ordained that it would be 'legal' for them to do it - morality had nothing to do with it.

And if you think Nazi Germany is some unique historical example, remember that this was not some backward third world country - Germany was a cultured and scientifically advanced nation.

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Doctors in 1930s Germany demonstrate clearly how much the medical profession 'cares' for people. Most of them weren't Nazis or members of the Nazi party, but all actively took part in human experiments that they knew were wrong and in conflict with their Hippocratic Oath.

what the fuck? all german doctors experimented on humans? are you just completely batshit fucking insane? no, don't answer that, you psycho.

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dew said:

what the fuck? all german doctors experimented on humans? are you just completely batshit fucking insane? no, don't answer that, you psycho.


Even if that were true the statement blatantly ignores the fact that these experiments were taking place during the rampantly fanatic '30s in which thoughts and behavior were dramatically manipulated... Really just about everything said there is complete and utter bullshit. The ignore function is doing me no favors thus far.

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dew said:

what the fuck? all german doctors experimented on humans? are you just completely batshit fucking insane? no, don't answer that, you psycho.



I'm sorry, but you're simply not educated enough on the subject to have an opinion worthy of consideration.

And regards your aversion to any form of violence, I dare say it relates more to your fear of having the ever-loving-shit kicked out of you if you dared address anyone in that manner IRL.

That's just an opinion though, so don't go all batshit insane about it.

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Doom Juan said:


I'm sorry, but you're simply not educated enough on the subject to have an opinion worthy of consideration.




Doom Juan said:

And regards your aversion to any form of violence, I dare say it relates more to your fear of having the ever-loving-shit kicked out of you if you dared address anyone in that manner IRL.



Did you just call someone else out for generalizing what you said, and the proceed to generalize? What the fuck retard logic do you operate on?

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Doom Juan said:
I'm sorry, but you're simply not educated enough on the subject to have an opinion worthy of consideration.

you just said an entire nation's population of medics and doctors participated in nazi human experiments and uniformly disregarded human decency. it's like YOUR whole education on the matter comes from return to castle wolfenstein.


And regards your aversion to any form of violence, I dare say it relates more to your fear of having the ever-loving-shit kicked out of you if you dared address anyone in that manner IRL.

That's just an opinion though, so don't go all batshit insane about it.


i got shit kicked out of me for standing behind my opinions by pseudo-fascist nationalistic scum like you. interestingly enough, they only ever "teach lessons" (as you like to say) when facing a single guy in a group of four or so. i doubt you would have the guts to do the same, big dog.

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Doom Juan said:


I'm sorry, but you're simply not educated enough on the subject to have an opinion worthy of consideration.

And regards your aversion to any form of violence, I dare say it relates more to your fear of having the ever-loving-shit kicked out of you if you dared address anyone in that manner IRL.

That's just an opinion though, so don't go all batshit insane about it.

Here's another opinion. You're an idiot with psycopathic tendencies.

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Ok so now I don't feel so bad for getting upset with Grandpa Juan's posts, I'm clearly not the only one. Faith in Doomanity restored.

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Nomad said:
Ok so now I don't feel so bad for getting upset with Grandpa Juan's posts, I'm clearly not the only one. Faith in Doomanity restored.


Half take the perimeter, while the other half and I face Doom Juan head-on.

But seriously though, like a few others I see this without a real stance: her parents should have taken more control, she made some bad decisions, the pedo is not the least bit off the hook, nor are the bullies... oh, and it's unfortunate the girl took her life due to the cruelty of those people.

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Prove me wrong.

I DARE YOU :P

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Doom Juan said:
Prove me wrong.

I DARE YOU :P


Okay. Which of the countless things you've been wrong about would you like us to start with?

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The more Doom Juan talks the more I want to punch him in the face

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All I ask is for you to prove me wrong: give me one example of german doctors resisting nazi rule, and I'll be satisfied.

Fail to do so, and I'll just take it at face value that you simply oppose anything I say for it's own sake.

The choice is yours.

Happy hunting!

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And why should we care in the slightest about what you think of us, given how you've behaved thus far towards anyone who disagrees with you?

But more to the point, this thread is not about Nazi doctors. Stop derailing discussions with unrelated bullshit: you did this in the Inquisitor thread, too.

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Doom Juan said:
All I ask is for you to prove me wrong: give me one example of german doctors resisting nazi rule, and I'll be satisfied.


The White Rose movement* was formed of medical students objecting to the human experimentation and shift in ethics of medicine at the time.

I will readily admit that, after doing some research, scientists, doctors, engineers and other similar fields not only had a high uptake of Nazi ideology, but also were actually encouraged and empowered by it. A quick Google search has told me that the scientific drive of the Nazi party actually provided a great deal of technology and a lot of fantastic advancements - not all through unethical means or for unethical gains either. It was an environment that really did nurture science. It just also had some very well-publicised downsides, which did encounter a lot of resistance at the time from Germans of all kinds. Resistance and fascism don't get on too well though, so it's not too much of a surprise that said resistance was hidden and repressed.


So there you go. Now you're wrong.

*Search "not all physicians" to get the relevant bullet point easily.

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Phobus said:


The White Rose movement* was formed of medical students objecting to the human experimentation and shift in ethics of medicine at the time.

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Invalid - students are not practicing doctors.

Try harder.

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You're so spectacularly sheltered. With attitude like that, you'd be easily able to provoke even present doctors do experiments on you.

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j4rio said:
You're so spectacularly sheltered. With attitude like that, you'd be easily able to provoke even present doctors do experiments on you.


That actually made me lol :P

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Doom Juan said:
All I ask is for you to prove me wrong: give me one example of angels dancing on the head of a pin, and I'll be satisfied.
FTFY. Nice thread derailment, that appears to be your specialty.

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FTFY. Nice thread derailment, that appears to be your specialty.


What a vacuous comment, considering no one would have given this thread a damn if I hadn't of said anything to begin with - the dynamism of this thread only got it's energy from a few opinions by myself. If people feel the need to question and are waiting with bated breath for my next post, then surely I am prompted to respond.

I am responsible for no such derailment, and in fact how long does anyone expect any discussion to last before it tapers off into a new subject?

That's normal, so deal with it.

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We don't even need to "find" that information about German doctors., it's a simple logical argument. The reason we know about so many who were willing to contribute to such atrocities during the war is because they were out of the norm. No one cares about the doctors who were concerned about actually doing their jobs of helping people (which is unfortunate). I can say with reasonable certainty that most legitimate (non Jewish) doctors in Germany, if they had known about what was going on at the camps, would have at the very least refused to participate.

The sad truth, though, is probably most of them who knew about it simply reluctantly looked the other way. But that equally applies to just about EVERYONE in Germany during the war who had any idea of what was going on. All they knew was they were promised things were getting better. Even those who may have disliked the Jews probably would have been against actually exterminating them; pretty sure most of them thought the Jews were just being shipped out of the country. Out of sight out of mind.

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Nomad said:
We don't even need to "find" that information about German doctors., it's a simple logical argument.


Yes you do, and no it's not.


Nomad said:The reason we know about so many who were willing to contribute to such atrocities during the war is because they were out of the norm. No one cares about the doctors who were concerned about actually doing their jobs of helping people (which is unfortunate). I can say with reasonable certainty that most legitimate (non Jewish) doctors in Germany, if they had known about what was going on at the camps, would have at the very least refused to participate.[/B]


Complete and utter assumption.


Nomad said:The sad truth, though, is probably most of them who knew about it simply reluctantly looked the other way. But that equally applies to just about EVERYONE in Germany during the war who had any idea of what was going on. [/B]


Turning a blind eye is tantamount to being complicit in the crime - find me a single court that says otherwise.



Nomad said:All they knew was they were promised things were getting better. [/B]


The road to hell is paved with good intentions.


Nomad said:Even those who may have disliked the Jews probably would have been against actually exterminating them;[/B]


You're assuming again.


Nomad said:pretty sure most of them thought the Jews were just being shipped out of the country. Out of sight out of mind. [/B]


Not according to contemporary evidence on the social history of Nazi Germany.

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Doom Juan said:
Fail to do so, and I'll just take it at face value that you simply oppose anything I say for it's own sake.

because your claim is ridiculously exaggerated and trollish. you have to be quite retarded and probably brought up by your parents in a very unfortunate way if you're able to believe EVERYONE practicing the medical profession in germany between 1933-1945 participated in experiments on prisoners. it's such a massive number of people it's statisticaly impossible simply because you'd need way too many test subjects.

also you make a demented assumption, then you ask us to disprove it. that's not how it work, especially since you're so busy shouting "Complete and utter assumption." hypocrite. your little task for us is also facetious, because we're supposed to find written evidence of someone not doing something instead of the opposite. how about you fuck off?

also this little gem:

Not according to contemporary evidence on the social history of Nazi Germany.

what's that supposed to mean? someone travelled back in time and acquired some new statistical evidence by asking everyone in germany if they knew about pseudomedical experiments on jewish prisoners? at least link us to your sources when you make wild claims. you don't sound as smart as you think.

to reiterate: FUCK YOUR LITTLE QUEST.

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Yeah, the dude's clearly trolling.

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dew said:
what's that supposed to mean?


Gestapo reports, you complete and utter dolt.

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With a very special mindset, you can pull off much more impressive stunts than when you are doing this so called 'trolling'. Enthusiasm from it would be gone by now.

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j4rio said:
With a very special mindset, you can pull off much more impressive stunts than when you are doing this so called 'trolling'. Enthusiasm from it would be gone by now.


This is not trolling, and I reject that word as a mere means that idiots employ online to stifle opposing opinions: in short, it is a cheap charlatan's trick to place one's opinion in an odious category for spiteful ends.

The complicity of German physicians in the Nazis' crimes against humanity is a well-established historical fact. The Nazi state was supposed to be a hygienic state; Nazism was supposed to be "applied biology". Hitler was celebrated as the "great doctor" of German society and as the "Robert Koch of politics". The seductive power of National Socialism for many physicians lay in its promise to cleanse German society of its corrupting elements - not just communism and Jews, but also metallic lead and addictive tobacco, along with homosexuality and the "burdensome" mentally ill.

Now I'll ask you all again: provide one shred of evidence that there was ANY opposition to this within professional medical circles, and I'll yeild.

Otherwise grow up and admit defeat.

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Isn't there like a rule that says when someone brings nazis to the discussion/argument that initially wasn't about nazis, that person automatically loses the discussion/argument?

How does nazi doctors relate to the death or anxieties of this Amanda Todd?

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Jimi said:

How does nazi doctors relate to the death or anxieties of this Amanda Todd?



Since you're capable of typing you must surely be capable of reading: scroll back and find out for yourself.

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Yes, I did that, and watched the video, and the messages in the video did not mention nazi doctors to be the cause of her misfortunes.

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