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Get ready to be sickened beyond belief: Boy rapes 8-year-old sister

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Technician said:

Not to pry but what kind of porno was he searching? I mean, a kid searching for porn isn't anything a parent should conjure blame for.


Regular porn, male poking a female I was told. Nothing nuts like a whore taking it from a horse. He must have caught wind from a kid at school, and like every normal kid he got curious when mum was away. I figured censorship tards would be using that article as an example of why we need more internet censorship like they always do whenever they can find blame for whatever problem that should be put on the proper shoulders instead of their Dumbass theories: a) the kid was seriously fucked since hopping from his mother's bush and b) no no no Christians, Xbox is not the devil.

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"This case has reignited the debate about children's access to porn" -- there's a debate about children accessing porn?

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Mogul said:

"This case has reignited the debate about children's access to porn" -- there's a debate about children accessing porn?

No there's a debate about trying to restrict adults' access to it, based on "but think of the children!".

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Articles like this one present the intended conclusion so matter-of-factly that most people probably don't even notice the huge assumption in what's being claimed, let alone question it.

"A 13 year old boy admitted raping his eight-year-old sister after watching pornography on a friend's Xbox."

Does anyone really believe that Internet porn just suddenly turns normal 13 year old boys into rapists? It almost presents the boy himself as though he too is just an innocent victim of the big bad wolf of Internet porn.

Problem now is that next time the government wants to push forward with its agenda for censoring the Internet, they'll have this and no doubt other horror story headlines to cite. Policy should be based on scientific studies and actual evidence, not weasel-worded newspaper articles like this one.

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It's not an uncommon thing, sadly. I know of at least one case in my town (ex-gf's little sister allegedly got fucked by her brother, whole family split straight down the middle by it). You just don't hear about it because of the ages of the people involved, the fact that the family shuts down and refuses to admit anything to anyone, the fact that it's fucking difficult to prove unless a medical examiner gets a look in very soon after the event and general legal derp.

Also, not a historian, but I am pretty sure there was rape and incest before the internet was invented.

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Solution: Teach your kids about sex, emphasizing the implications and explaining why certain things are wrong.

Reason no. 293057 the protestant iron grip on the US does more damage than good.

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You could let literally every kid in the world see hardcore porn on a weekly basis starting at the age of 3, and a generation later society would strangely not collapse. Rapes and pregnancies would even go down. Disagree with me, deep down you know I'm right.

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I'd have to agree with fraggle, it is not plausible that porn would just merely flip the switch of wanting to rape someone. There's more chance that a lack of respect for women predates the boy's actions or intention of action. Whether he truly did it immorally/amorally or not is another matter, but it would be interesting to see just how the family in question live on a daily basis and what sort of values are transmitted within the familial discourse. It's not like porn does not alter the sexual cognition and behaviour of teenagers/children, but it's definitely not the main factor in cases like these.

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darknation said:

It's not an uncommon thing, sadly. I know of at least one case in my town (ex-gf's little sister allegedly got fucked by her brother, whole family split straight down the middle by it). You just don't hear about it because of the ages of the people involved, the fact that the family shuts down and refuses to admit anything to anyone, the fact that it's fucking difficult to prove unless a medical examiner gets a look in very soon after the event and general legal derp.

I don't doubt that it's common and has probably been happening since the dawn of the human race. But it's certainly interesting how many news articles just like this one keep coming out focusing on Internet pornography. It's a trend that's started a year or so ago. There's a very obvious attempt to push an agenda, and so far it's basically been completely effective.

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fraggle said:

I don't doubt that it's common and has probably been happening since the dawn of the human race. But it's certainly interesting how many news articles just like this one keep coming out focusing on Internet pornography. It's a trend that's started a year or so ago. There's a very obvious attempt to push an agenda, and so far it's basically been completely effective.

A trend that has only hit hard in western Europe. I suspect Canada will jump on the enlightenment train soon.

Woman objectification is huge on the SJW left side and the think of the children mentality is huge on the hicks right side, so they got it both ways.

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Technician said:

A trend that has only hit hard in western Europe. I suspect Canada will jump on the enlightenment train soon.

Woman objectification is huge on the SJW left side and the think of the children mentality is huge on the hicks right side, so they got it both ways.


On the left side this is actually crumbling. Most are now admitting that pornography itself isn't the problem, but the industry. Plus amateur porn could be "revenge porn". So in reality it's not the porn, it's just idiots in general. mostly this is because SJWs realize they like porn.

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Nomad said:

Solution: Teach your kids about sex, emphasizing the implications and explaining why certain things are wrong.

Heh, yeah. It really doesn't take that much effort, kids are gullible. At the age of 13 I was convinced that incest almost inevitably leads to hideous malformed mutant babies, so if you don't feel like describing the full works to your kids, just scare the shit out of them with that silly episode of X-Files or something.

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For everybody discussing how this will be usable as propaganda and is obviously already being used that way, I have to pose you this question as well - how do you even know it's true, that it even happened at all? Because the news said so?

This whole thing sounds suspiciously similar to another so-called case I heard about through the media quite a while ago, being used for the exact same purpose of trying to drum up popular support for the porn banning agenda.

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Quasar said:

For everybody discussing how this will be usable as propaganda and is obviously already being used that way, I have to pose you this question as well - how do you even know it's true, that it even happened at all? Because the news said so?

This whole thing sounds suspiciously similar to another so-called case I heard about through the media quite a while ago, being used for the exact same purpose of trying to drum up popular support for the porn banning agenda.


This^

The media in just about every country is nothing more then a tool of the government. They will air any thing and everything a government tells them to in order push a social or political agenda. Take everything any news agency tells you with a grain of salt.

Also, for those of you that doubt this, read up on the many cases fought by the FCC against all mainstream media outlets in the US. By, law these outlets are forced to keep a running record of every red cent they get in the from of ad funding or donations from any political origination or politician affiliated individual. The only problem with this is that these records are not public. The FCC has been taking the like Fox, CNN and the rest to court in an effort to force the funding records to be 100% public. Each and every time, the mainstream media outlets have simply lawyered up and managed to shoot the cases down. Claiming that the freedom of speech allows them the right to hide the records from the public. I'm 100% sure just about every country has the same issue.

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dew said:

Heh, yeah. It really doesn't take that much effort, kids are gullible. At the age of 13 I was convinced that incest almost inevitably leads to hideous malformed mutant babies


Incest does lead to major increase in chances of genetic diseases appearing in further populations. So, you were actually taught truth.

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Quasar said:

For everybody discussing how this will be usable as propaganda and is obviously already being used that way, I have to pose you this question as well - how do you even know it's true, that it even happened at all? Because the news said so?

We're not the irrational ones here, the public are. And they love stories like these to get outraged over.

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j4rio said:

Incest does lead to major increase in chances of genetic diseases appearing in further populations. So, you were actually taught truth.

Don't worry, I know that, hehe. I was just imagining really severe deformities in the first generation - it'd probably take more generations to accumulate enough DNA damage for really freaky results.

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I've known a lot of women touched by their brothers and fathers. Since I'm everyone's therapist, I hear about it. Lucky that he got arrested, a lot of them don't.

As for incest causing flipper babies. I present to you Vadoma, the Ostrich Foot tribe >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vadoma

Generations of incest only gave them weird feet.

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dew said:

Don't worry, I know that, hehe. I was just imagining really severe deformities in the first generation - it'd probably take more generations to accumulate enough DNA damage for really freaky results.


Actually, one generation can be just enough for possible mutation results from autosomal recessive diseases. Look up Mendel's laws of inheritance.

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I did learn about that in high school. :P The chance is there, but realistically, I assume you need some stacking up over time/baby count. I'm not sure, but I don't think media reported on anything wrong with, say, Fritzl's progeny. I doubt they'd pass on such a meaty story. They certainly didn't for the recent multi-generation Australian incest clan, that was pretty disgusting even reading about it. The usual stories (gypsies from Eastern Slovakia settlements spring to my mind, heh) mention giving the child to a foster family with no health details, though.

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dew said:

I did learn about that in high school. :P The chance is there, but realistically, I assume you need some stacking up over time/baby count.


You don't need stacking. There is no stacking actually happenning at all. I'll try to explain it very briefly. There's enormous amount of people who already transfer a gene of certain disease, but that disease does not manifest upon those people in any form, they are just and only transfering gene of it. Let's tag such gene of transfering person as "Aa". A is the "fine" part of gene and the other one, a, is the "bad" part of gene. If this transferer procreates with somebody completely healthy, or in other words lacking any defect part of gene, you can't spawn anything genetically diseased. Let's tag such person as AA since both his halves of gene do not code any disease currently in question. Which genes will be present in next generation is based on complete lottery. By crossing AA and Aa, each parent gives one half of his gene randomly to each descendant independently. Therefore, there are 4 possible outcomes - AA, Aa, AA and Aa. This means there's 50% chance that descendant will be completely healthy or 50% chance that he/she will trasfer defect gene. Now, if you cross two transferers, which is extremely likely during incest compared to, well, non-incest, crossing will look like this - Aa x Aa -> AA, Aa, Aa, aa. 1:4 chance of being healthy, 1:2 chance of being transferer, 1:4 chance of horrible mutation manifesting. These chances are present in all generations, every time same chances, no stacking. This is the most common case of genetic diseases manifesting themselves, but of course a sick person can spread his gene as well, so by following these rules, you could find out that if somebody with two defect parts of gene procreated with healthy person without any defect part of gene, the next population will not be sick, but there will be 100% chance that all of descendants will be transferers of defect gene. That's more or less all to it.

Note that there is a little more to genetics terminology, which I admit to barely remember anymore. Also, this was the case of autosomal recessive disease, which are the most common to appear this way, but there are also autosomal dominant where even person with Aa gene will be "genetically sick" and not a transferer anymore, and there is also gonosomal inheritance which is also slightly different.

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Alright, so you're saying it's not stacking up per se, it's betraying evolutionary selection. Regular reproduction kinda evens itself out, so the healthy genes win, but with siblings it's up to predisposition. If a bad gene is present, it will propagate with a higher chance and actually stack over time - not because the Mendel inheritance rules, but because the inbreeders will inbreed even with genetic trash an outsider wouldn't touch. And technically, a pair of genetically perfect übersiblings can spawn a master race... until some bug finds a way to wipe them all out in a single sweep, because they lack the crucial genetic variation. Are we on the same page now? :)

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Well, if you're looking at the matter from single-to-few generations perspective, which is by far the most notable, there's nothing much else to it than possible manifestation of genetic sickness that one parent was transfering. A long time span would have other consequences, since basically there is no evolution happenning anymore.

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Technician said:
We're not the irrational ones here, the public are. And they love stories like these to get outraged over.

Blaming the readership, listeners and viewers follows the neoliberal idea to simply blame demand when companies and lobbies take a dump on society. People don't necessarily love sensationalist and paranoid media garbage, but it's very useful to combat journalism that actually does deal with social problems, and media owners and their hired editors deliberately use it to that effect.

I never forget the media coverage we got here after the 2001 economic crisis. Because of the economic downturn, a bulk of the poorer sections of society were forced move out of their neighborhoods and protest or work as waste pickers. The bigger media kept spamming about supermarket robberies, kidnappings or "insecurity" instead of dealing first and foremost with what was causing any of that.

More than a sign that the masses are stupid and debased, it's a sign that the media is being dominated by elites whose interests clash with those of large portions of the less fortunate parts of society and that intend to silence their issues and drive discord and self-loathing in their mist with repeated fearmongering and stereotypes.

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