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ProGamerX56
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Nice run shock.
Following your footsteps.

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What are the conditions required for getting a linedef skip? I am trying to build a linedef skip for the yellow key on map 3 of Unholy Realms (for a new movie), and it seems that, regardless of my speed, momentum, or position, I almost certainly activate the linedef, and I only got one successful, ugly-looking skip.

Attached are two demos, one where I get the skip, and another where I am running faster at the linedef, and the skip still doesn't work (also my tangent momentum is 0).

Also, my map 01 is .40, but I couldn't find any significant optimizations. :/

Attachment: 03ur.zip
This has been downloaded 6 time(s).

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I always get them by coincidence :) No rules apparently. This may be of help

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vdgg said:
I always get them by coincidence :) No rules apparently. This may be of help


Yeah, for whatever reason, I was only able to get any success by sliding alongside the wall. The strange thing is that I am not wallrunning when I skip the linedef, and, moreover, I actually have to slow down in order to skip it. In the attempt here, I have a MF38 SR 50 tic on the skip, and if I have anything higher than MF38, I don't skip the glide, even though I'm moving faster. In my newer, slightly faster skip, likewise, I need a MF17 SR50 tic on the skip in order to get it. This really does seem very random; I wonder if there's any explanation in the source code.

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I've always thought that to skip a linedef you have to cross it kind of between the tics, if that makes any sense. Like, at one tic you haven't crossed it yet and at the next one you've already did. Doom's eyes blinked just at the right moment. :)

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Memfis said:
I've always thought that to skip a linedef you have to cross it kind of between the tics, if that makes any sense. Like, at one tic you haven't crossed it yet and at the next one you've already did. Doom's eyes blinked just at the right moment. :)


I did also try to optimize the cross. In my attempts, I just barely do not cross the linedef on one tic (less than a half a unit away from it), and the next tic I'm over it. But even at a speed of over 18 units per tic I couldn't get a skip. Maybe the RNG also plays some part, but I don't see why it would.

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By the way, here is my slightly faster skip, in case anyone wants to see it (with map 3 exit). Done pretty much the same way, just a bit earlier.

Don't add any of these demos to the DSDA.

Attachment: 03ur2.zip
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

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