What is the worst WAD you ever played and why?

Death-Destiny said:

Is autism/AS really that common? I'm starting to feel left out since I don't have any diagnosed mental conditions. =( Then again, I'm sure that only the very serious cases get considerable public attention, which leads to that misconception.

Anyway, I don't have a least favorite WAD, but my least favorite map is "<|>", Kama Sutra's 30th map. I can't even play that map when other people are around because playing a "pornographic" doom map would lower their opinion of me considerably. I think it's childish that KS's authors put such an immature joke in what was otherwise a high-quality serious project. If they wanted to make a map like that, why not make it stand-alone and add it to the archive of the many other sexually-related jokeWADs?

You know, that level does have an alternate version. You go to a different teleporter IIRC.

Janitor said:

You're not missing out on much. I'm diagnosed with depression and ADHD.

Yeah...I have a fair share of things "wrong"...but I can't stand it that people use it to their advantage (or rather, for attention). Ugh.

Anyways, yeah Kama Sutra was alright, I played it awhile ago (found Map30 to be quite hilarious). I have a tendency not to finish huge wads, I'll skim and play a couple of levels. I think the megawad that I really finished from start to end would be Eternal 3 (and Batman).

Oh..Hacx wasn't that fun either. I don't know why it wasn't fun. Interesting design...it was just bad.

i would have never guessed that some of you guys had mental conditions... there is this one autistic kid in a few of my classes and whenever i try to spark up a conversation he will either run away or say please go away. the strange thing is this kid knows he is severely autistic and he has told many people he'd like to find a cure.

as far as i know im normal.

but anyways, worst wad besides the "legends" like wow.wad, (at least that i have) has to be congestion 64. shittiest concept ever, shittily executed, no aesthetics, no imagination, its lame. too small.


by the way that auferstehung thing had to be one of the funniest things i have ever seen.

Auferstehung would be the worst wad I've played its the only one I can still remember after all this time so I consider this one to be the worst I've played I'm sure there are more but I don't think there are many wads out there that could be worse than auferstehung.

Just read trough that auferstehung thread again its amuzing to some degree.

exp(x) said:

DRE: The level design was horrible and the enemies had way too much health.

That wad is actually decent if you split the enemies' health in half. But, yeah, in it's released form it's pretty shitty.

I just put "auferstehung" into Babel Fish and it says "up purchasing." What exactly is that title supposed to mean?

I enjoyed Hacx until the map quality started spiralling downward.

Doom2.wad does deserve some intense criticism. The architecture really doesn't match where the story says that you're supposed to be.

Creaphis said:

I just put "auferstehung" into Babel Fish and it says "up purchasing." What exactly is that title supposed to mean?

Hmmmm... I just typed that into Babel Fish as well and got the same result... very curious. "Auferstehung" meant "Resurrection" last I was aware of... =/
If you enter this into Babel Fish in the reverse order (that is, English to German) it gives the correct output.

Ghostbusters Doom just made me mad because it isn't finished. Its great until you can't get anywhere 'cuz its broken.

Butts said:

but anyways, worst wad besides the "legends" like wow.wad, (at least that i have) has to be congestion 64. shittiest concept ever, shittily executed, no aesthetics, no imagination, its lame. too small.

If by "shittiest" you mean "best ever" then I totally agree.

Creaphis said:

I enjoyed Hacx until the map quality started spiralling downward.

Doom2.wad does deserve some intense criticism. The architecture really doesn't match where the story says that you're supposed to be.

Yeah, that's what was wrong with Hacx. Think it was because they were pressured to release it, or rather burned out by it?

I liked DOOM2. I'm not sure why others don't. I prefer it over the original simply because I played the original to death. That and TNT was far superior, didn't really like Plutonia, had too much of an abstract design.

Yeah it made me frustrated too when Ghostbusters went unfinished. :/

I was disappointed by the 1 Monster megawad. Maybe the concept was flawed but I thought the restriction might inspire rather than hamper creativity.

Of course there are much worse WADs out there but there's (hopefully) only so many times someone can mention WOW.WAD in the same thread.

Creaphis said:
Doom2.wad does deserve some intense criticism.

Just keep in mind what is says in ENDOOM!

Death-Destiny said:

Is autism/AS really that common? I'm starting to feel left out since I don't have any diagnosed mental conditions. =( Then again, I'm sure that only the very serious cases get considerable public attention, which leads to that misconception.

Anyway, I don't have a least favorite WAD, but my least favorite map is "<|>", Kama Sutra's 30th map. I can't even play that map when other people are around because playing a "pornographic" doom map would lower their opinion of me considerably. I think it's childish that KS's authors put such an immature joke in what was otherwise a high-quality serious project. If they wanted to make a map like that, why not make it stand-alone and add it to the archive of the many other sexually-related jokeWADs?

My autisim isn't that serious anymore but it leads to my creativity. But I had a few difficulties as a child but today I'm totally capable of doing what I'm doing.

Kama Sutra's MAP30 absolutley shocked me and it ruined such a good megawad in sone ways and I had a feeling what was inside the uterus of that huge humanoid figure. John Romero's head unborn! - Wish it was a real woman on my bed, hmm yum yum yum!

The worst wad I played where hard to navigate, had monster replacement sounds, didn't offer any challenge and had too many rooms with 1 monster in it. Most of the times they were made in 1995/96.
I liked wow wad, I don't know if it's the first jokewad, but it's one of the better.
Kaneko's Lament has 0.66 stars and 30 votes, which is the lowest rated wad with more then 25 votes.
However it has some challenge and design wise there's so much worse.

myk said:

Just keep in mind what is says in ENDOOM!

Ha, maybe I am different and strange.

No, I've always enjoyed playing Doom 2. It's a fun set of levels. But, now, that I have a more mature and critical eye, I see that Doom 2 simply doesn't have any artistic coherence.

But I'd better not turn this thread into another Doom 2 debate. This forum has seen enough of those.


Asbergers and autism are fad disorders. Like ADD/ADHD, suddenly every kid has it when it seems that nobody had it before. I'm not saying that they aren't real conditions - autism can be a very serious condition - but:
1. It's impossible to be 100% sure that a diagnosis of a mental condition is right. In general, if you multiple psychologists/psychiatrists about a single patient, you will only get 50-80% agreement on what condition he has.
2. Asbergers is diagnosed with a list of symptoms that aren't particularly rare. Everyone has their bouts of anti-social behaviour, for example.
3. Psychologists have a tendency to find disorders when they expect to find them. The explosion in diagnoses of Asbergers is proof enough for this - now that it's in the medical books, traits that may have been ignored previously are now considered as symptomatic of Asbergers. Also, tests have been conducted where people in perfect mental health to go mental clinics and claim to be hearing voices. Even if they claim afterwards that the voices have disappeared, the resident psychologists may still label these individuals with a diagnosis of "schizophrenic" and try to detain them for observation.

Coldfusio said:

The worst wad I played where hard to navigate, had monster replacement sounds, didn't offer any challenge and had too many rooms with 1 monster in it. Most of the times they were made in 1995/96.
I liked wow wad, I don't know if it's the first jokewad, but it's one of the better.
Kaneko's Lament has 0.66 stars and 30 votes, which is the lowest rated wad with more then 25 votes.
However it has some challenge and design wise there's so much worse.

what? wow.wad was boring and uncreative! i bet a 5 year old can make a better wad than that. oh and the wad ur talkin' about is The 'Sky May Be' i think, is it?

dutch devil said:

Auferstehung would be the worst wad I've played its the only one I can still remember after all this time so I consider this one to be the worst I've played I'm sure there are more but I don't think there are many wads out there that could be worse than auferstehung.

Just read trough that auferstehung thread again its amuzing to some degree.

Did you know that the creator of nazi ressurection [auferstehung is the german name] is in this forum? Also, there is over 100 wads that is worse than auferstehung like wow.wad and sky may be and mogo.

exp(x) said:

DRE: The level design was horrible and the enemies had way too much health.

whats DRE?

CyberMonsterDude said:

whats DRE?

CyberMonsterDude said:

Did you know that the creator of nazi ressurection [auferstehung is the german name] is in this forum?

What makes you think that, O triple poster?

CyberMonsterDude said:

what? wow.wad was boring and uncreative! i bet a 5 year old can make a better wad than that. oh and the wad ur talkin' about is The 'Sky May Be' i think, is it?

Wow might not have anything to play in it, but it's far from horrible. It's just plain nothing.

The worst I can think of was some pseudo-jokewad with no level design whatsoever and a lot of ridiculous sprite replacements, the usual thing. It was just so bad that it stood out among the rest of the other similar jokewads. Too bad that I have a poor map memory though, the only "distinctive" "feature" I can think of was replacing some monsters with sprites of half naked women.

Two other bad wads are one Army of Darkness wad and Herian 2. I've heard that some people like Herian, but I just can't take the mishmash of styles together with really poor level design (or at least the parts I saw were really poor).

How did something like wow.wad ever get so popular? Was it like, publicized or did you guys just find it randomly through idgames?

sadhusct.wad

Chu said:

How did something like wow.wad ever get so popular? Was it like, publicized or did you guys just find it randomly through idgames?

Although I'm not to sure what caused its initial un/popularity, I know this skyrocketed it.

Ichor said:

sadhusct.wad

Yep.

A major step in wow.wad's rise to fame was the review at Doom Underground:

http://games.moria.org.uk/doom/du/reviews/wow.html

Otherwise, I suspect it might have remained relatively anonymous. I'd guess that when Cyb and Ling were compiling the infamous wads list, they looked at what had got the lowest ratings on the main review sites.

Chu said:

How did something like wow.wad ever get so popular? Was it like, publicized or did you guys just find it randomly through idgames?

I'd say Wow.WAD is one of the greatest mapping "successes" in Doom history. I'm still not sure if it was meant to be a joke or not, but either way it's gotten more attention than most other WADs I've ever seen. Nearly all WADs, save for the highest quality WADs, can never even dream of getting anywhere close to that level of recognition.

It kind of makes you think the author was a genius for spending a short amount of time making Wow.WAD and getting far more recognition for it than a decent year-long project that will probably stay under the radar... =/

Yeah, wow.wad itself doesn't deserve to be considered the worst ever, as countless similar wads have been uploaded over the years, but somehow this one simple, crappy wad got more attention than any other. I would attribute its success to the fact that the level maker gave it a story, per se, making it appear as a dead-serious mapping attempt. That and some high-profile attention and key moments rocketed it to infamy. Also, its name is catchy.

I think wow.wad is great, whether it was intended as a joke or not.

BTW I had the chance of playing that Nazi wad.

It was a complete fail.

Ichor said:

sadhusct.wad

Yeah, that's it. Some quality shit there. Everyone who still thinks that wow is "horribly" has yet to play sadhusct.

I played six levels so far of sadhusct and I liked it.
It are speedrunning maps, the fourth is very hard. There is a hazard suit that will protect you from the hom, but it's hard to get.