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pcorf said:
The last 3 maps were very nice indeed in particular Map29. Map30 was interesting I must admit and the encounter with John Romero at the end really surprised me.

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pcorf said:
the encounter with John Romero at the end really surprised me.

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Grazza said:
You need to exit dead.

Every five maps, the idea is that you exit dead in order to have a pistol start for the next five-map "episode".

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hawkwind said:
So how the hell do you "exit dead" if you have killed all the enemies, are still alive, and arrive at the exit area ?

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hawkwind said:


So how the hell do you "exit dead" if you have killed all the enemies, are still alive, and arrive at the exit area ?

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hawkwind said:
If I am wrong, and I'm willing to be proven so, can someone tell me exactly how one goes from level 25 to 26 - without crouch.

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skepticist said:

You must smash yourself with rocket launcher against the wall opposite to exit linedef while moving backwards. This speedrunning trick can be used in many different wads, in Plutonia Experiment, for example, or Icarus.

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hawkwind said:


Ok. I tried this with Risen3d, gzdoom and glboom+. Using gzdoom, this "trick" does indeed work. But when tried with either Risen3d or glboom+, the player just dies and slides into the exit area, and still has to restart level 25.

Can anyone confirm this ?

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David_Dweedle said:
hey can someone give me a link to the Download? im either blind or eyeless because I cant find it..

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Mike.Reiner said:

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=13600.

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Spleen said:
It's not a bug, it's a timer that you failed to beat. :p

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Baby Bonnie Hood said:


How short is this timer? I've tried killing everything ASAP, then not killing anything and just running through; but it still won't open, despite the fact that I can get there in less than 30 seconds. Or am I missing something?

Edit: I just cheated to check the time (but not go to MAP32). 15 seconds?! Are you shitting me?! That's half the time needed to pass Run From It from Scythe 1 (I fucking hated that and had to resort to jumping to finish it) >_<

And those palsma troopers! I thought the ones from All Hell Is Breaking Loose are bad enough, but these are even more insane! You're an evil evil man.

Edit: I don't understand. I can get there in less than 15 seconds (13 is my best), AND IT STILL WON'T OPEN!!! This is the worst secret ever.

Fuck it, I'm idclipping...

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Baby Bonnie Hood said:
10 seconds? Ugh... D:

This and Run From It are the first ever "forced speedrun" levels I've played in Doom (though Secret's is only optional); and thanks to their nigh-perfect-demanding time limits, I didn't enjoy them very much. I had to jump to get by Run From It, in an otherwise no-jumping WAD; I seriously cannot figure out any other way to do that level.

...then again, is Scythe really a no-jumping WAD? You had to jump to at least figure out how to get to Secret, and the maps with the 500+ monsters make me doubt the WADs' compatibility with doom2.exe. Then I suppose no one will mind if I crouch to exit MAP25 instead of death gliding there and dead exiting (yet again)?

Super Secret was pretty cool, very reminiscent of E3M9. I already saw it coming when I saw the familiar level, and I still liked it anyway ;)

I'll be honest, I have yet to play Hell Revealed. I've managed to finish Scythe 1 on UV though, so I guess I'll go through the rite of passage known as Hell Revealed after I finish Scythe 2 :3

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lareman said:
NOOOOOOOOOO!! You ruined the surprise...

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