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tatsurd-cacocaco
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Because I finished my DAC's map, I will make my HTC's map again. To complete the map on 23 december might be difficult...

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Well I've got a map order for a 27 map 3 episode HTC that I think is pretty good using the available maps.

I am currently selecting suitable Heretic music tracks for the levels which the authors didn't include any new music and fixing minor mapping bugs. Though I may look outside Heretic if I can't place a Heretic track to a level. Naturally if any of those authors wish to submit music for their level, feel free to.

So far I haven't made any game play alterations beyond finishing the exit area of Kaiser wilhelm's map which was submitted with that area incomplete.

But if when I play through the episodes as a whole, I find something way off (i.e. the player exits a particular map with a stupidly large amount of ammo), I might make some minor game play adjustments (i.e. remove some of said ammo from the map).

One thing though, currently, none of the maps have secret exits so there is no way to reach the EXM9 maps. Should secret exits be added to the required maps or should EXM9 simply be part of the normal level progression?

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Vermil said:
One thing though, currently, none of the maps have secret exits so there is no way to reach the EXM9 maps. Should secret exits be added to the required maps or should EXM9 simply be part of the normal level progression?

I'd say that depends on how many maps there are and how you wish to lay out the episodes. There was that suggestion of making the secret maps as part of the episode in a way to make shorter episodes to fill out all 5 episodes.

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Vermil said:
I am currently selecting suitable Heretic music tracks for the levels which the authors didn't include any new music and fixing minor mapping bugs. Though I may look outside Heretic if I can't place a Heretic track to a level. Naturally if any of those authors wish to submit music for their level, feel free to.


I have a Hexen tune in my map at present (the church/crypt/graveyard map formerly known as E4M5) but could you replace it with Doom's E2M6? (as I think it'd fit better)

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I think any Doom tune would be far too recognizable as "it's Doom!" to be used in a Heretic map.

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Most, yes. E1M6 most likely. The only ones I think that might work in Heretic are D_E1M5 and D_VICTOR.

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On the contrary, I think E2M6 was the original Heretic-style tune. (at least back in the old days it sounded like that in terms of instruments etc.)

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The Ultimate DooMer said:


I have a Hexen tune in my map at present (the church/crypt/graveyard map formerly known as E4M5) but could you replace it with Doom's E2M6? (as I think it'd fit better)



Done. I agree that it actually fit's pretty well.

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Not long to go now...is it almost ready?

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I have currently paused major work on the HTC as I am waiting for Torn to send me a couple of maps (have been for about a week now). No point giving the episodes a full run through if I might replace maps.

Personally, I'm not shooting for any deadline currently.

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I'm not sure if you moved it, but I liked the default tune in my E2M5, so if necessary I'd prefer you use that one

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Hey vermil, sorry for the delay. I have been trying to find my e4m3 (I still have the unfinished e1m1, I dunno if I finish it). So just forget about my maps.

I guess I could finish my e1m1, but I would rather have this released.

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Vermil, I found my e4m3. Can I see the maplist you have got, I really want to release htc in some days.

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Sorry, I will NOT be in time for the deadline. I'm still busy now, but I will be released from a assignment of the college on 23 December. I can finish my map enough before end of this year.
However, you should release htc the deadline disregarding me because I don't want to trouble a lot of people any more.

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Two days left...

I will be really disappointed if this isn't released. At this point, I don't really care if we are "missing" anything such as quality control, continuity, consistency - I just want to see it DONE. As people have been saying anything that was taken out can be released as an expansion.

Furthermore, this will open the door for HTC2. I'd much rather see a kind-of-sloppy HTC1 with room for improvement than nothing at all with a fizzling spark of "Yeah we tried heretic mapping once..."

DO IT

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Just in case my pictures got lost, here they are again...

title pic:
http://rabotik.nl/rabotiknl/temp/htitl.bmp

logo:
http://rabotik.nl/rabotiknl/temp/hlogo.bmp

background credit screen:
http://rabotik.nl/rabotiknl/temp/hcred.bmp

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Well, I'm playtesting Episodes 1 and 2 at the moment. I've hit a snag with Episode 3 that I'm still thinking about how to deal with.

I plan to play each map to see how much ammo and equipment I am leaving with. If I find myself exiting with any more than a little of either, I will remove some of the ammo from the map and give it another run through until things are about right.

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Hey vermil, do you have MSN messenger or something? I really want to talk directly to you, so we can put this out in a few days. :)

Edit: at least I will start working on the basic wad with TV's titlepic, etc... textures and start working on the mapinfo.

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You mean I'm being too vague via PM you mean :p

I've sent a PM with my messenger address.

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Vermil said:
Well, I'm playtesting Episodes 1 and 2 at the moment. I've hit a snag with Episode 3 that I'm still thinking about how to deal with.

I plan to play each map to see how much ammo and equipment I am leaving with. If I find myself exiting with any more than a little of either, I will remove some of the ammo from the map and give it another run through until things are about right.



I recall a huge argument about wand starts in the old thread...but I suppose if you're exiting with excess, it will still be playable from wand start if ammo is removed.

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so... today is the 23d.

any news?

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t.v. said:
so... today is the 23d.

any news?



Yes, we will release a demo episode today. Then we will release a complete release in some time.

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Better than nothing I guess.

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Where the fuck is it you lazy son of a whore.

...
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DEMO DOWNLOAD! (heretic treasure chest episode 1)

(also uploaded to the idgames archives as well).

Last edited by Torn on 12-23-09 at 22:57

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Yaaay. :D

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t.v. said:
Just in case my pictures got lost, here they are again...

Strife quality.

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Happy birthday to Heretic!

Oh yes, I MUST finish a map quickly.

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I'm planing to play the demo this weekend since I'm busy with Christmas stuff. Also Happy birthday Heretic!

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printz said:
Strife quality.

Harmony quality.

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