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DoomHero85 said:
How about a cyberdemon 2x the size of the normal one with two heads and 4 launchers/arms. That would scare the crap out of anyone. At least 4x hp as well. Have a few normal cybers as minions.

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pizzabob18 said:

- I like the idea mentioned earlier of having more base hell-growth ie E1M8. I remember one of my favorite small parts of KDIZD was the haunting music that would play whenever you got close to a hellish part of the base. It'd be cool to see this expanded upon

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pizzabob18 said:
I was referring to specifically the transformations that happen as you progress in Z1M8, (vines/flesh gradually covering the walls) . While the idea of hell taking over a base has already been implemented in the classic E2, I was curious about how it would be further developed or which direction - horror/hellish, this would take the levels.

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Megamur said:


I always wanted to do a Deimos level where the base just felt like a living entity. Rooms would shift around you--you'd leave an area, then when you came back, a room attached to that area is now gone, or possibly moved to a different location altogether. You'd hear horrible sounds of rumbling and grinding metal in other rooms as the base contorts into new shapes while you're not looking. It'd possibly even start ripping itself apart, with walls uncontrollably tearing open before your eyes, or flesh or metal simply growing out of the floor, into twisted spires of...weird-looking stuff.

I'm just not sure how capable ZDoom is of doing this sort of thing.

And yes, anybody on the TSoZD team is free to steal those ideas if they sound interesting. :)

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esselfortium said:
We're not sure yet about the rifle. One possibility is that it might be included in a modified form that makes it a liiiiiiiiiiitttle bit less absurdly powerful. >_>

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Marnetmar said:


Why is this suddenly a new idea? This is what happened in the original E2.

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esselfortium said:
We're not sure yet about the rifle. One possibility is that it might be included in a modified form that makes it a liiiiiiiiiiitttle bit less absurdly powerful. >_>

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Vader said:

Concerning the keys:
We thought about adding more keys, but since E2 already uses the 3 cards and the 3 skulls, we thought it'd be more than enough. So no; there propably won't be any additional keys!

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Megamur said:


I always wanted to do a Deimos level where the base just felt like a living entity. Rooms would shift around you--you'd leave an area, then when you came back, a room attached to that area is now gone, or possibly moved to a different location altogether. You'd hear horrible sounds of rumbling and grinding metal in other rooms as the base contorts into new shapes while you're not looking. It'd possibly even start ripping itself apart, with walls uncontrollably tearing open before your eyes, or flesh or metal simply growing out of the floor, into twisted spires of...weird-looking stuff.

I'm just not sure how capable ZDoom is of doing this sort of thing.

And yes, anybody on the TSoZD team is free to steal those ideas if they sound interesting. :)

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DoomHero85 said:
@Megamur: Maybe write an email to Carmack about putting that stuff in Doom 4 :)

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Sodaholic said:
I have a question, since KDiZD used rotated sprites for the pickups, why not use voxels in TSoZD since ZDoom supports them now?

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Foodles said:
I hope you decide to make the secret map more than just 2 big rooms, however well detailed they might be

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