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Into Sandy's City

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9 levels for Doom2, Sandy Peterson Style.


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Paul improved a lot since the times of this WAD. While not explicitly bad, it's rather primitive and abuses some copy&pasta and repeated patterns. Visuals are sufficient and stay on the original Doom level. ~ 10.2016

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The first few maps are very predictable and very boring. After that it just becomes bordering on the line of impossible, and still boring. Try adding more health items.

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the city???

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These don't really catch Petersen's style and difficulty varies too much. They do feel like older maps, and there's nothing wrong with that, but lack the conceptual variety Sandy used. Most of his levels had character; these seem rather random. One made me think of Klie's and another a bit of Scythe 2. The Raven games and TNT music is out of place, too. There are bugs in vanilla, as well (I got stuck in map06). [2/5] ~Chain Mail (08/2010)

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Interesting wad idea but the levels don't match Petersen's style. There are some details that resemble his levels though. 3/5 Bug report: in level 5 there's a hidden elevator in the cyber room. By using it, the game crashes with this message ''P_AddActivePlat: no more plats!'' -ASD 14.2.2012

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Yes, I liked this mapset too. It's fun if a bit easy at points. Bonus points for use of d_e1m5, my favorite song ever. -- woodpecker

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Although it is extremely simple I didn't mind playing these maps. These things remind me of the old days. 3/5 - Cutmanmike

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Even if the architecture is more simple than usual, I quite liked this one for it's gameplay. 4/5 - Optimus

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I'll ignore the retarded premise of this wad and just say that starting with map05 this wad is actually okay if you don't mind the 'classic' design, and quite good if you find it enjoyable. Too bad the 'ZDoomisms' detract from the experience, that could've been easily avoided. 3/5 - Belial

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I think that Sandy Peterson would be rather insulted by these maps. Sandy Peterson's maps weren't as detailed as American Mcgee or John Romero's but the architecture was nice and the gameplay was usually good. In this wad, the achitecture was plain and rather boring, and a lot of the fights were unfair and pretty frustrating -Craigs

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Why are people rating this wad so low? It is from Paul Corfiatis; every wad he makes is worth 5 stars as he is a Doom GOD!!!

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You guys are all mentally frustrated, you're all not enjoying Doom. But I actually enjoyed this episode, the gameplay is not great and the design is simple. But it looks good. 3/5

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Doom is a 13 year old game and this is a 13 year olds attempt at a map. 1/5

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Very nice mapset. Simple and good. 3/5 -Moti

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Even for something that is supposed to be retro this is very simplistic; each level is laid out on a strict grid pattern, the corridors tend to have a row of monsters in single file, and the detailing and layout is uncomplicated, to put it kindly. It's never more than competent and occasionally it's very bad, e.g. the "maze" in level three. The secrets are a mixture of totally obvious, and unmarked bits of wall. On the other hand it's short and doesn't take too long to finish.

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Sandy Petersen: 1) made better-looking maps than these; 2) made maps that played better; 3) could spell his own name; 3) did not release maps that crash Doom2.exe (e.g. map02); 4) did not make map-shattering invalid tag errors (e.g. map05); 5) even if he had made mistakes like those, there is no evidence that he would have repeated them in future projects. Verdict: failure.

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Nice.

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First few levels are flat and boring .. next few are better, but have alot of 'lol archvile' and gimmicky fights that are annoying or unfair. Putting Peterson's name on these maps is a letdown.

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Terrible. Sandy never made maps like this. I feel his name has just been used as an excuse for releasing poorly detailed 94-style linear hallways which degenerate into hitscanner spam. Another almost unplayable mapset from this hugely overrated author. 0/5

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I enjoyed playing this! 3/5 -Dqey

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Even for poor quality, mind numbingly boring levels these smell of fail. 0/5

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