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Whispers of Satan

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Whispers of Satan is a 30 level add-on for id software's game Doom 2: Hell on Earth requiring a Boom compatible source port.


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SilverMiner

· Edited by SilverMiner

  

Maps from 12 up to the end are great without any gameplay mods.

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Comparing this to the 2002 DooM Odyssey I must say WOS is dead, it has no soul. The guys who mapped for it hadn't even think about tweaking textures for good. As example: plutonia skull tex looks odd and AROCK is not animated (but it wasn't too hard or time consuming to make it animated, right? As long as it was a Boom wad). 

 

Arise, Pcorf, I want you to make a 2020 Doom Odyssey but not soulless as this.

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FuscaBat

  

This wad is pretty fun and the maps are competently designed, but it's tough to recommend this wad because many of the maps are easy and forgettable. The last few maps are decently challenging, so WoS may be worth the download for maps 25 through 30.

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MuratMikal

  

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amackert

  

Note: Played continually on UV. This wad definitely gives a great first impression: The architecture is excellent, the music is fantastic and the maps are complex. The issue for me is that it just wasn't all that exciting. The biggest reason for this is frequent predictability in the map design. For instance, you'll walk across the exit halfway through the map, only to realize it's locked. This normally wouldn't be a problem, except that it's used time and time again over the course of the wad. The same goes for the use of symmetry. I don't think it's as bad as others have made it out to be, as one door might lead you to a room that's carved out differently than the one on the other side, but it is something you learn to spot a mile away and it adds to the overall repetitive feeling. Lastly, enemy layouts are supremely predictable and pose little challenge (here are a few shotgunners; OK, now here are a few imps; OK, now here's one mancubus; OK, now here are two hell knights; OK, here's a single revenant; All right, back to a few shotgunners, etc). Very rarely do you face groups of enemies, nor do you typically face larger groups of same types of enemies (imps and pinkies aside). Also, while there was a clear attempt to vary the enemy variety in each map, the way enemies are mixed into each map becomes predictable in and of itself. It doesn't help that rocket and plasma ammo is quite limited overall, leaving you to the SSG for much of the playthrough, and all this does is compound on an already tedious experience.

 

I do feel that for those that like a more traditional "vanilla" experience that's on the easier end of things, this is surely a four or five star wad. However, for people that need some semblance of a challenge, not to mention some kind of progression in this area over the course of the wad, this one will not do it for you.

 

I'd personally rate this two-stars from a gameplay standpoint, but am leaving my rating at three overall due to it being clear a lot of care and effort was put into this. It's just not for me--I need something that is going to make me work a little bit more than this does (tedium is not the solution to that).

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eharper256

  

Probably my favourite Megawad. I was surprised when people talked about symmetry here. I don't see it at all, but then I'm the kind of guy who can't see the difference between 4k and 1080p either, so take that with a pinch of salt.

 

Most notably, though, its good for those of us who want reasonable quantities of monsters. May be a detriment to those that love slaughter, but I don't.

 

My actual only beef with it is how it loves keys sitting on raised pillars. It literally does lead you from pillar to post on some levels.

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pulkmees

· Edited by pulkmees

  

Pretty good wad if you like symmetry and visually striking architecture. Gameplay also has a symmetrical element to it, that might put some people off, but the visuals kind of make the whole experience ok. As a result of the symmetry the navigation is also easy.

 

Most frequent fight setpiece is a door, that needs 2 switches to be flipped. Of course enemies appear, teleport or guard it, usually a symmetrical set on either side. A common end enemy is the archvile, which might get repetitive/boring/annoying to fight depending who you are(the last 2 maps managed to annoy me)

 

There are a couple cheap trap maps, but not too many. The best maps are in the hell section as this is where they went nuts with the architecture and visuals. A major thing I disliked however was the secrets as most were behind a very very slightly misaligned wall texture. Not going to even bother humping every wall. Some were also accessible only once. The secret levels were also strangely enjoyable and/or weird.

 

Difficulty is just right, no slaughter combat(if that is a detriment to someone) in sight. Maps are pretty balanced for pistol start, although some maps get tricky and you'll probably need to find the secrets for ammo.

 

Altogether I can definitely recommend this wad, might be a bit too mechanical, but it's all very polished and solid for what it's offering.

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Nems

  

I find the whole "copy/pasta" and "symmetrical" level design complaint to be funny. For some reason it's bad if this wad does it but if other wads do it it's fine and they get five stars. In any event, I thought the level design and gameplay encounters were fine despite being a bit on the easy side. It's a nice break from some of the more challenging stuff I've been playing. Admittedly I'm a pcorf and Kristian Aro fanboy though so I guess take this review with a grain of salt. In any event, I enjoyed it and I'd recommend it.

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Cacodemon9000

  

Maps look pretty nice, but playing them isn't that fun. Most of them are very repetitive and layout itself is too symmetrical - maps mostly consist of mirrored parts or quarters, and copypaste mapping isn't something acceptable for me. For good part - music fits well to the maps and overall atmosphere quite good. So 3/5.

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Spectre01

  
Good music and some interesting ideas combined with very symmetrical level design and easy/mediocre combat. 2/5

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Combinebobnt

  
Satan whispers to me that this wad is pretty alright

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Flammable

  
10/10 I realy liked this one. Very good. The secret maps are shitty, just map31 was cool. but mostly wad is awesome. And also, yeah, "Hell is a state of mind", i know that feel. Flammable4444 12.10.15

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Guest

  
Great music and arrangements throughout, but one or two that dropped the ball. Although there was a lot of symmetry in some levels, the rest of the wad makes up for it with some great design elsewhere. There a good mix of obvious traps and not so obvious traps. Mostly balanced throughout the wad. The easteregg in map 32 was... something else. So overall a strong 4!

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Guest

  
awesome fun with surprise moments and great music

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Guest

  
stop rationalising why this wad sucks god dammit! it just does and no crackaward could fix that. enough of having to be PC IRL, why bring this into Doom too?

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Never_Again

  
"Dull and soulless" is an apt description: map after map of relentless copy-pasta and mechanical gameplay, which occasional nice bits from Aro cannot save -- the epitome of faceless newschool. Pcorf can do much better than this, as he showed just a few months ago with Incineration; but music and not mapping has always been his main strength, anyway. Some of his tracks (like 2002 ADO E3M2) are bordering on genius; cannot think of a single map of his that would evoke half the emotion.

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Guest

  
A bright example of how Zdoom influence corrupts even talented mappers. Completely dull and soulless compared to wads such as RuinBros, DTs, 2002ADO.

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Guest

  
That megawad is totally amazing. I'd spend a lot of time trying over it. May some sectors are a bit repetitive, but isn't the rule. Great one! Do more like that! 5/5

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Guest

  
Loved it.End of story.

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Guest

  
"MORE THAN 3 YEARS GOD DAMNIT!" hahahaha! I know that feel bruh.. keep up the good work!

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Guest

  
Map design in the first half is decent, but nothing too special. Improves greatly by the second half, however. Unusual for more recent megawads, the challenge is mostly on-par with the D2/FD iwads. Starts off easy, and gets more interesting as it goes along.

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Guest

  
My favorite megawad, the hell is really well made, very symetric but i love this style!

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Mixed bag really. Some boring maps, and some really great maps. Also, wtf with the pink?

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I can't go above a 3 rating for this. A lot of these levels are littered with copy-paste architecture. While a lot of areas look very well done, other areas appear to be created in nice, neat halves or quarters...then mirrored together (this includes monsters and pickups). Even the fights are repetitious and predictable. I ventured further and played some later levels (well beyond 10) only to find the same thing. Sorry, not my cup of tea. 3/5

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Wonderful wad. 5/5

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Great WAD! The levels are pretty awesome and have some contrast between levels making them more enjoyable. Also there is a reference to Dark Forces on level 31 :D luv that game! Anyway great WAD!

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    • By elend · Posted
      What a set of maps. At first I only expected random maps that use use Mario textures, but this is so much more. From the cutesy bullet puffs of the weapons, to the plasmagun sprites, there have been more changes than "just" textures. All together they form a very, very coherent picture which makes you almost disappointed, that there are no Mario enemies in the game.   Even then, the actual quality of the maps surprised me quite a bit as well. Very, very fun to play from the beginning to the end, with admittedly frustrating parts (the map featuring only Archies and Revenants or the map featuring ice and wind. Oh god, the ice...). These are not just simple techbases given a Mario texture paint, these maps are well thought out and tailored to the textures, ranging from grass lands, over desert to impressive castle scapes and even an air ship. I played on TYTD not only because I am a wimp, but also because those maps are really, really hard and have some frustrating moments. It speaks for this mapset's quality, though, that you can live with those moments and still enjoy the maps.   Try it out at least.
    • By P41R47 · Posted
      I really dig it! Its feel like a Ultimate Doom take of TNT, but its not at that level either.
      Its a great adventure mapset, leaning more to the  atmospheric and realistic architecture.
      First and second episodes are amazing. Introducing the new enemies as the maps unfold. But midway around episode three it start to lose steam, with a serie of really short maps and then maps really similar to the originals, this is not bad at all, just feels a little uninspireds. Fourth episode on the other hand, feels extremely rushed, with a lot of monotexturing and undetailed areas. Its not bad, but coming as the ending episode it could be much better, specially with the degree of detailing the author showed on the precious episodes.

      All the episodes offers a good challenge, even on Hurt Me Plenty, but don't expect anything near the difficulty of NEIS.   All in all, being one of the few complete Ultimate Doom megawads, its pretty good and i liked the new enemies sprites and the music used, almost all the time.
    • By chlef · Posted
      No, this is not good by any stretch. First 25 levels feel like they are all the same - colorless, flat, dull and bland. Next 3 look like deathmatch arenas with a handful of monsters. Again, all pretty much the same. The last two are pitch black mazes - oh what fun. As for the secret levels - I abandoned both. Map31 is a maze alternating between pitch darkness and flashing primary colours and map 32 is simply an incomprehensible mess. Possibly acceptable if you just want to kill some time with mindless point and shoot, but not what I would call an enjoyable Doom experience. At least it avoids degenerating into slaughter.
    • By aargh · Posted
      Pros: Straightforward, lot of action, no button madness. Plays smooth. Classic Doom feeling.
      Cons: Lots of invisible lines blocking monsters. Lots of hitscanners and not enough health packs.
    • By MuratMikal · Posted
      An enjoyable set of maps of easy difficulty (MAP 07 is medium) in UV with simple design that worked well for me. Finished the whole set in 02:40 min. Certainly worth a shot!
       
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