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The Keystone

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You'll see all three keys from the time you begin, but how to get them is the challenge. Only two of the keys are necessary to complete the level. There are many secrets that you must be observant in order to find. You may be surprised on the final staircase, but the Baron won't be.


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Not bad at all actually, I could not figure out how to get the yellow key though and so missed out on the secrets behind the yellow doors. Looks good plays good but not the best, texturing was not ugly and the map was large and a challenge. The first two reviewers seem to have rated low on other 90's wads as well and I encourage RL, Perseus and anyone else to keep uploading missing maps because a lot of us are actually grateful when these maps re-surface. 3/5 not a waste of time at all.

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"Pretty much everything uploaded by RL and Perseus are wastes of time." said someone above. Nonsense. While Perseus has uploaded some junk (and/or without permission), the vast majority of RL's uploads have been excellent. Many maps in the early days didn't get uploaded to the archive, for a variety of reasons. RL is doing a great service to the Doom community.

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looks like a solid vanilla map to me... Why all the hate?

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Pretty much everything uploaded by RL and Perseus are wastes of time. If these wads weren't uploaded back in the early '90s, why are they being uploaded (spammed) en masse now? The above reviewer is right.

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First two reviewers are faggots. It may be not the best map ever, but it' pretty good (especially for 95).

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I almost didn't play this, due to it being an (early) 1990s map, but I'm glad I did. It's not the best level ever, but it's good enough, and E1-ish enough in style to be quite enjoyable. 3.5/5 - ZZ

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The yellow key is only for some secret areas. This is a map that made you feel boring when you needed do some backtracking processes, and some weird monsters placements...but I guess it's OK for that era...... I like the light effect at stairs nears the exit area...but after that, it's just a average map. 3/5 -playerlin

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not bad..I cleard withot yellow key.

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Really nice map. /hth

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  • File Reviews

    • By Argenteo · Posted
      It took me several tries to unwrap the map but I really enjoyed it. J Flynn still amazes me. A tricky great map.
    • By kin0agent · Posted
      This map is beautiful to look at and amazing to play. It reminds me of a something I'd see from a map in the late 90s and I love it.
    • By Teo Slayer · Posted
      I'm breaking up with Valiant to start my new love with Hellbound. Best DOOM mapset that has been made. I have replayed it more than once with Brutal DOOM Platinum and Final Doomer(Hellboundguy class) and I still can't get tired of it. Cities, hellish maps, tech bases, I just love it. I also really like the combination of E2M1, E2M2 and E2M3 in Map19. Amazing stuff right there, I strongly recommend this
    • By Astronomical · Posted
      I forgot to review it when I first finished it, but I played it again with final doomer so I think it's time.   Ancient aliens is beautiful, and it plays as well as it looks.  SkillSaw gives some of his best maps in his career, only matched by his heartland performance.  But the heavy lifting is really done by the presentation, stewboys midis always fit, and the fact the soundtrack is bespoke is incredible.  I personally enjoy all of the maps, only the secret maps have any issues fitting in, and secret maps are allowed to not be great.  My only issue with the wad are the inconsistent 3rd episode, and ironically it's skillsaw's work in that episode that is probably the worst (So good, but not as good as the earlier work in the wad) as the rest of the team turns in great work.  
    • By Astronomical · Posted
      Valiant was hyped up in my mind as a future favorite megawad, Often proclaimed as the best megawad by many.   But it is imperfect. 1. The Super chaingun is lame, not a fan, it want's to be the ultimate weapon, but it is never set up to be powerful, most enemies are too tough too be taken down by it without justifying use of a better weapon, and moments where cannonfodder are plentiful enough to justify it are too rare.  Most importantly chaingun sniping is limited, I almost wish for a regular chaingun because its ability to pick off enemies from a distance was that valuable for me.  The pistol isn't a good replacement for it, so a gap is left to pursue an overlap in the arsenal.  The custom enemies are fun all of them are great.    2. The maps are divided into episodes Ep1 - Earth tech base that is fun Ep2 - Waste episode that is ok I think for 2 or 3 maps but starts to suck later Ep3 - The Darkwave episode Ep4 - Hell that is hell to play Ep5 - Lunatic reloaded (I liked lunatic so it's fun)   The aggressive red and orange maps just unfortunately suck sometimes.  The maps aren't bad but annoying and it feels like they suck out the fun.  The other 3 episodes are fun most of the time but are imperfect.  I love custom monsters and weapons so I had that to look forward too every map, but the wad just isn't fun sometimes.   3.  Maps are detailed, but I personally enjoy vanilla maps so it doesn't appeal to me in that regard.  But In theory you wouldn't notice it because of the speed of play, the best valiant maps would be hard to recreate from memory because they would force the player to go fast.  But that also clashes with Skillsaws love of map 24 the Chasm, I wanted to idclip so many times because I fell off a thin ledge or didn't do the platforming section as well, I didn't but the restraint required was immeasurable.   4.  The aracnorb, cool in theory but combined with high ceilings made me want to hang myself, thankfully Skillsaw made the ceiling so high I can't hang myself from it because there isn't a ladder long enough.   5. I don't have a 5th point but I like the number 5 so I felt disgusting not having a 5th point.   To conclude, Valiant is fine and most of the enemies are cool but it has issues, play at your own risk.
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