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Sunlust is a set of 32 boom-compatible maps for Doom II, designed to be played from pistol start. The maps meander through a range of themes, from traditional bases and temples to abstract hellish, void, and tech aesthetics. UV is designed primarily for ubermensch doom-gods, thus we encourage most players to start off on HMP or lower.


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amackert

  

I recently played through this continuously twice on UV. Overall I feel this is an expertly crafted WAD from start to finish. Beautiful scenery, great soundtrack, and intense gameplay. Maybe a little too intense sometimes, and with that it's probably not a WAD I'll recommend to newbies. If less experienced players absolutely have to try it, I suggest playing on the lower difficulty modes as the included readme suggests. Describing the later maps of this WAD as "brutal" on UV is an understatement to say the least.

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Agent6

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And there goes Sunlust, and what a ride it was.

 

So first things first, Sunlust is a 32-level megawad consisting of challenging levels. It does not feature new enemies, but comes with a new background screen, an atmospheric, sometimes epic soundtrack, and new textures for most if not all levels making them look absolutely beautiful which adds to the overall experience. it also comes with new (non serious) intermission screens but they're just there without adding anything.

 

The gameplay is similar to that of other megawads such as AV or HR in general, with a number of maps having only little over a hundred or a few hundred enemies and the maps rely on smart placement to offer a challenge, which applies even to some of the slaughter inspired levels, although they mostly rely on the sheer numbers of enemies in various kinds of encounters. Many levels also feature suicide exits but unlike megawads such as Ancient Aliens, Valiant, Scythe and so on which have them every 8 maps or so which usually signalize an upcoming increase in difficulty and sometimes split the megawad in episodes a la Doom 1, they're placed randomly here as a surprise element. You might run into a suicide exit and the upcoming level might feature hundreds of enemies, while others might feature little over a hundred, you never know. And yet the difficulty doesn't change, it's almost like the authors put them there just so that you have to pistol start a map every now and then but not to scare you with a spike in difficulty. It's an interesting experience nonetheless.

 

Many of the later levels have the enemies in plain sight but in a sleeping state, with their backs facing you. This was probably done to offer the players who haven't played the megawad before (those who do a blind playthrough like I did) time to observe the surroundings and come up with a plan of sorts before jumping into the action or getting assaulted by enemies, which is something welcome for me. I've always had the impression that megawads such as Valiant and AA don't really want you to jump into the action without any knowledge of the levels, and in consequence involve quite a bit of trial and error before figuring out an optimal route. This might be a plus for some players, but not for those who just want to enjoy a new megawad from the very first playthrough, and in the case of Sunlust, I'd say it doesn't fall under the trial and error category, so if it's your first time playing it and are at least a decent player you're fine, no serious reason to worry about dying due to not knowing what lies ahead, and traps are easily recognizable most of the time as well.

 

On the subject of difficulty, what I have accidentally discovered while watching a video of MAP30 is that the levels themselves seem to be different on other settings than UV. Considering that UV is targeted at the most skilled players from the description I had chosen to play Sunlust on HMP this time around (I might be insane but not to that degree), and one thing I've noticed is that MAP30 was different on UV. The yellow key is somewhere else, there's more teleporters in a place, and some secret areas seem to work differently, particularly the Cyberdemon room. It would seem that the deadly platform in the middle didn't instantly kill them once activated for some reason. Or maybe I ran into a bug? I don't know, but what's certain is that it did not work for me. Something else that I have noticed is that a number of maps also feature optional areas. I realized this after I finished these maps with only 50-60% kills, so if your target is maxing out everything keep in mind that you'll have to take a detour. The levels are also fair, with the exception of an Arch-Vile room in MAP29. "Go Fuck Yourself" they said. Indeed, good luck avoiding waves of Imps and a few Hell Knights while hiding behind a moving wall with a bunch of Arch-Viles behind it in a small, circular room. Ingenious, I must admit this.

 

As about my favorite maps, well, that's a difficult question considering that the vast majority of levels are gorgeous and provide solid gameplay, but the ones I liked the most are MAP09, MAP10, MAP16, MAP18, MAP19, MAP27, and MAP28. The levels in general explore a variety of themes and locations: Some are "natural", while others are mysterious with a magic atmosphere, cavernous, hellish, surreal, futuristic, and so on. The first few levels also remind me of Requiem. As for the ones I disliked, that's going to be MAP30. The starting area looked pretty interesting, but everything else was just "alright", with a few ugly rooms before the location of the yellow key. This level doesn't feature a typical Icon of Sin boss, it's a slaughter level with almost 2000 enemies. Most certainly not bad, but not fantastic either, yet a fitting conclusion to the journey.

 

And with this I think I've covered pretty much everything. Another solid megawad, well worth the time.

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Gato606

  

The maps have nice design and the textures with glowing effects really caught my attention.  Though, all the maps have always ambushes waiting for you, that got really tiring after some maps.  Additionally, map30 is IMPOSSIBLE to play on GZDoom without the framerate dropping to 0 making in unplayable, even on ZDoom (without GL) it has to be played in vanilla mod, any mod loaded will slow down the hell of it.

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Count651

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A pretty decent wad but not without some serious flaws

 

Pros

 

- High detail maps

- A lot of map variety

- Long playtime

- Good variety of difficulty

- Unreal Tournament Music

 

Cons

 

- A lot of extremely brainless/spammy monster placement ( tiny rooms packed with so many monsters you HAVE to save scum )

- too many obvious traps, every item you pick up and every button you press seems to cause loads of enemies to teleport around you, a lot of levels became too predictable and repetitive because of this

- Some bad music choices ( this is mostly a matter of opinion ) a lot of tracks sounded too upbeat for Doom, a lot of these tracks sound like they were taken from an 80's workout vhs

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Demtor

  

This... this is amazing. The WAD that brought me back from my 15 year Doom hiatus. I remember hearing about this from a blog I follow from time to time on PC games. My thinking went like this... Caco awards? What the heck? People still make Doom 2 levels? Ohhhhh, my god! Unbelievable. If you can't hack it, don't feel bad. This is hard. Don't be a hero. Tune down the difficulty and try again. It's worth it.  

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Mabuse

  
5 stars :)

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Spectre01

  
I thought I rated this? Easy 5/5 and one of the best wads ever made.

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Killer5

  
Sick wad.

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Fonze

  
I should be shot for forgetting to vote 5 stars on this sooner. Such a beautiful, fun wad; a must play!

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Rambosee

  
Slaughterwads aren't my thing. That said, this is an exception. Beautifully done and crafted. It feels like careful work has been put in just about every sector of each map. It's like the most beautiful levels of Speed of Doom got ramped up to 10, filled up the entirety of the wad, and the combat, even if it is just slaughter, given thought!

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MistAche

  
Playing catch up to everyone else on masterpieces like this has never been so much fun. Went through on HMP moreso to enjoy the architecture and design. I found the gameplay in later levels to be a headache, too intelligently designed, but genius in parts nonetheless. Clearly a lot of work went into this.

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MrGlide

  
Beautiful and challenging map set.

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Jekyll Grim Payne

  
One of the few wads that made me feel like I'm playing Dark Souls in terms of difficulty. Nice!

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0x02

  
awesome!!

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yakfak

  
best of 2015

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Bryan T

  
Play on easy and enjoy the wad. Only masochists play this on UV.

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Guest

  
very best...excellent!!!

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AnonimVio

  
Gets boring really quickly.

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Guest

  
Designed for deathmatch...no Player starts...

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arobase

  
Long-time slaughtermap disliker and yet Sunlust on HMP is exactly what the masochist in me was looking for.

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Doomkid

  
A good deal of this reminds me of a more modern AV.wad. High quality layouts and interesting MIDIs used throughout. Dark, gritty custom textures - Some TOO dark and gritty, but there is still beautiful detail everywhere you look. I'm only giving this a 4 because this honestly isn't my taste - Give me something a little more Scythe - but the quality is undeniable. Looks great for survival too!

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Nazgul9

  
Some people here have said this may be the best wad ever made, and i agree. Brutally hard on UV (especially with a certain unnameable Doom mod lol), stunningly beautiful, and for the most part really clever layouts and situations. It's really nice to see Danne break down his maps into framerate friendly chunks, for the most part, though i was unable to play maps 25, 29 and 30 because of extreme lag. Great work... Keep them coming!

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Guest

  
If you honestly don't like this style of aesthetic or gameplay (on any skill),then fine. But enough already with making complaints and negatives because you insist you must play this wad on UV, like it's some chore you're obligated to. As the text file says, IF YOU ARE NOT A DOOM GOD THEN DON'T PLAY THIS ON UV! But don't come on here and criticize anything before you give HMP (that is, not HNTR and not UV) your most honest shot. 5/5 material nuff said now.

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Guest

  
+ Great maps. Massacres. - No escape deadly traps.

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    • By amackert · Posted
      Visually there is a ton of attention to detail which is always a treat to look at, and the actual map designs of the first four episodes are very well done. I enjoy the "new" monsters and some of the upgraded weapons, it definitely makes certain parts of it feel fresh compared to the typical wad. The challenge on UV was just right for me with few if any parts being too overwhelming. Overall it gets a 4/5 from me because I wasn't a big fan of the fifth episode set of maps, both thematically and gameplay-wise. Ammo starvation was real there in those last few maps which isn't a lot of fun to me, not to mention its too drastic of a change compared to how the rest of the wad plays. Also, thematically I feel like these end-game maps would have made a bigger splash as mid-game maps, not finale maps. Great idea with the final boss mix-up though, I enjoyed that. I do still prefer Ancient Aliens as a whole (a wad that I feel is much better balanced overall and is more interesting of an experience), but Valiant still comes highly recommended from me.
    • By hardcore_gamer · Posted
      I agree with BChricton78. Rather than being fun to play, this remake just highlights how massive of a difference good lightning and texturing makes to a level/game. I know this isn't the fault of the makers of this mod since they were merely remaking the original Doom 64 levels, but these levels frankly aren't very great when stripped of the improved Doom 64 graphics. So much in fact that it makes me wonder how important level layouts even are compared to other aspects of the visual presentation such as texturing, lightning and rendering.
    • By silentzorah · Posted
      Good stuff.  Only giving it four stars because though the new music was good, I just wish there was more of it.  Still, this wad is absolutely worth your time.
    • By BChricton78 · Posted
      Umm... From the brief snippet I played, I'd definitely give them an A for effort... But this just feels... wrong to me. I'm sorry but playing Doom 64, without the lighting, atmosphere, redone sprites and ambient music? No thanks. It just takes away the things that make Doom 64 so special. Still a nice little attempt at recapturing Doom 64, but I'm better off with Doom 64 EX, for my fix.
    • By Agent6 · Posted
      And thus, oh you know what I'm going to say already, Doom 64 for Doom II has been finished, played through GlBoom+ 2.5.1.5 on UV.   So for an introduction, as the name implies D64D2 is a recreation of the classic Doom 64 originally released as a console exclusive for the N64. It aims to recreate the levels along with their gameplay using mostly vanilla Doom II resources. It features a new menu background, ENDOOM screen, new music, a few new enemies, namely the Nightmare Imp and Cacodemon as well as the final boss the Mother Demon, a few new textures, new intermission messages, a new end level screen, but no custom sounds or weapons, meaning that the unique and iconic Unmaker was not recreated in any way.   For a recreation, I must say that the levels and their gameplay come quite close to the original Doom 64, nonetheless various liberties have been taken in different forms, ranging from new takes on various puzzles to completely new levels, as well as the usage of the enemies who were absent from the original due to memory limitations. The usage of enemies who were absent from the original game comes with mixed results as it doesn't always work, probably one of the most obvious flaws in the game. This is most noticeable primarily in the levels that came closest to their D64 counterpart as the environment was clearly not designed with them in mind. For instance, you'll encounter Revenants on narrow corridors quite often, and sometimes even Arch-Viles. This isn't a problem in larger areas where it's usually quite fun to fight them, but not in those particular areas. Chaingunners do seem to work quite well however since they can easily blend with the rest of the hitscanners.   Compared to the original D64, a major difference could be the tone and atmosphere of the game. D64 was slower paced and more atmospheric, whereas D64D2 is faster paced with less emphasis of that element, supported by the amazing but more action/fun oriented soundtrack. Perhaps the darker, much more hellish levels such as Unholy Temple are the most atmospheric levels in the entire game, and also the best looking. Unholy Temple is definitely my favorite level here.   While on the subject of changes, some of them are very interesting. In the Void is probably the most surprising for me. The original featured a light blue sky and a rather foggy atmosphere while the level itself was pretty bright, how does this map look like in D64D2? Well, it seems to literally take place in a void now. Indeed, the sky is now completely black, but luckily poor visibility was avoided, at least for the most part, so there's no difficulty in seeing the enemies and where they are. It's a change that works well, unlike others. The most drastic changes were probably done to The Absolution, where you can now find 3 keys, but you need to complete various puzzles to reach them, and not the exciting or fun type. The room with the yellow skull was probably the only fun one, the others? Well, for the red key you have to go through an awkward platforming section where everything, including the enemies are obviously, cloaked in darkness, while the blue key has a puzzle comparable to the room with the red key (Demon key on the original D64) on Outpost Omega, except that it's more tedious. Not exactly changes done for the better. I don't know how exactly they impact the level though, but in my playthrough I didn't even fight the Mother Demon, I just heard her screaming once while I was fighting the teleporting enemies thinking that she finally showed up, only for the end level screen to appear, so I assume she died somehow.   D64D2 also comes with some exclusive levels that were not part of the original D64, and I personally think they're little more than filler maps. They're not terrible, but not great either, and I can't find any reason for why they exist. Well, at least they're very short and straightforward, so you don't waste much time with them. And while being on the subject, some of the secret levels from the original have been turned into regular maps, meaning that you don't have to search for secret exits to reach them. One such example is Outpost Omega.   All things considered, D64D2 manages to capture the spirit of D64 while also making plenty of changes, yet generally remaining faithful to the original. Some changes might have been for the worse, but there's plenty done for the better as well. It's pretty short and easy, just like the original, so it can be finished in a day, you can't go wrong with it. A collective effort for an ambitious project that should be well worth your time if you like Doom 64 and want to see a different take on it.
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